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Old 09-25-2010, 04:58 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Conservatives refuse to talk about 70% of the budget.

Thats the military and medicare. So they focus on the 30% that don't benefit their political backers directly, welfare, unemployment, social security.

The fact is we spend 4 times what the rest of the world does on military expenses. In the mean time, those that enjoy our protection don't have to spend any money on their military, because they know we'll back them in a fight. So we keep spending our money on what amounts to foreign aid.

Why do we continue to do this? Lets spend equal amounts to what the rest of the world does, and only 4 times what China does on their military. Lets take 25% of our budget, and cut that out.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Solution? Get the spenders and bleeding heart libs out of office STAT!
Guess you snoozed through the entire Bush era huh?

The problem with you guys is you never complete the sentence: Obama is spending because...
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:02 PM
Status: "Biden won." (set 21 days ago)
 
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Conservatives refuse to talk about 70% of the budget.

Thats the military and medicare. So they focus on the 30% that don't benefit their political backers directly, welfare, unemployment, social security.

The fact is we spend 4 times what the rest of the world does on military expenses. In the mean time, those that enjoy our protection don't have to spend any money on their military, because they know we'll back them in a fight. So we keep spending our money on what amounts to foreign aid.

Why do we continue to do this? Lets spend equal amounts to what the rest of the world does, and only 4 times what China does on their military. Lets take 25% of our budget, and cut that out.
Bingo. We spend a $1 trillion a year on the military. There is a lot of fat we could cut right there. Social Security and Medicare are also the biggest drivers of our debt. Americans don't want to get rid of the programs or privatize them, so we have to figure out how to reform them to actually pay for them.
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Old 09-25-2010, 05:06 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Bingo. We spend a $1 trillion a year on the military. There is a lot of fat we could cut right there. Social Security and Medicare are also the biggest drivers of our debt. America don't want to get rid of the programs or privatize them, so we have to figure out how to reform them so we can actually pay for them.
But conservatives would have you believe that social security, welfare, and medicare are the only places where we can cut the budget.

The way I see it, there is a need for those programs, like them or not. There is no need for a military that is 4 times more expensive than the entire rest of the world combined.
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Guess you snoozed through the entire Bush era huh?

The problem with you guys is you never complete the sentence: Obama is spending because...

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Old 09-25-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Penn and teller explain obamanomics - be aware, a lot of F bombs come on the videos. It's hilarious though. And....so true.

"I’m not taking pie from you, I’m giving pie to me. And when we’re both out of pie, we’ll go find somebody else who has more pie.”

Sounds simple enough: (Can't post link, but here's the google search link... it's about 1 minute or so in length.)


penn and teller explain obamanomics - Google Search=
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:51 PM
 
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Cut spending, raise taxes.

We can (and will) talk in circles about this for the rest of our days but it won't change those two simple facts.

how about we raise YOUR taxes?
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:54 PM
 
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Conservatives refuse to talk about 70% of the budget.

Thats the military and medicare. So they focus on the 30% that don't benefit their political backers directly, welfare, unemployment, social security.

The fact is we spend 4 times what the rest of the world does on military expenses. In the mean time, those that enjoy our protection don't have to spend any money on their military, because they know we'll back them in a fight. So we keep spending our money on what amounts to foreign aid.

Why do we continue to do this? Lets spend equal amounts to what the rest of the world does, and only 4 times what China does on their military. Lets take 25% of our budget, and cut that out.
good points Now, what specific parts of the military budget should get cut? are you willing to live with a low-cost military?
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:56 PM
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how about we raise YOUR taxes?
How is raising one person's taxes going to reduce a $14 trillion national debt?
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Old 09-25-2010, 06:58 PM
Status: "Biden won." (set 21 days ago)
 
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But conservatives would have you believe that social security, welfare, and medicare are the only places where we can cut the budget.

The way I see it, there is a need for those programs, like them or not. There is no need for a military that is 4 times more expensive than the entire rest of the world combined.
Yup. We could cut our military budget in half and still outspend the rest of the world. I think we could manage on a $500 billion per year military budget.
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