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IC, you state that if a foreign country makes a person a citizen, with no act or knowledge on the person's part, then they are ineligible. if that were the case then any country could simply make everyone born in the US also a citizen of that country and we could no longer have a president.
IC, you state that if a foreign country makes a person a citizen, with no act or knowledge on the person's part, then they are ineligible. if that were the case then any country could simply make everyone born in the US also a citizen of that country and we could no longer have a president.
Not necessarily true. It depends on the countries' laws in effect at the time of each person's birth, and the exact citizenship status of their parents.
The entity you're really arguing with on this is the US State Department. They recognize foreign citizenship at birth.
Not necessarily true. It depends on the countries' laws in effect at the time of each person's birth, ...
the country's law is that EVERY person born in the US is also a citizen of that country. it doesn't matter what the state department does every person born in the US would be a dual citizen.
You'll have to argue with the US State Department on that. THEY recognize foreign citizenship at birth.
That's just stupid. All nations decide who they consider a citizen or not, no matter what the US State Department thinks of the matter. Hell, there are people who are dual citizens involuntarily. Try again.
the country's law is that EVERY person born in the US is also a citizen of that country.
Citizen? Yes. Natural born citizen? No. Foreign allegiance at birth is the issue. Read John Jay's letter, the origination of the 'natural born citizen' clause in the Constitution.
All nations decide who they consider a citizen or not, no matter what the US State Department thinks of the matter.
The fact is that the US State Department recognizes foreign citizenship at birth. You may think that's stupid; that's your right. That doesn't change the fact of the US State Deaprtment's position on this.
Read John Jay's letter, the origination of the 'natural born citizen' clause in the Constitution.
i have read john jay's letter. he makes no mention of parentage. i also have never seen anything documenting jay's letter as the origin of NBC in the constitution.
to some degree any conspiracy theory will always have followers. i think this has been true since the dawn of man ( pick your dawn ). currently there is still activity on the birther front. orly has resubmitted here case to the supreme court and the lakin trial is still going on. but.......
it almost seems that dabbling in "birther" has become the equal of the drunken hook-up. it appeared the right thing to do at the time but....... now with a little more clearity might not have been the best course of action. both republican and dem.
....or are the birthers still a vital force in the political scene ?
honest question.
The "bithers" were never viable to begin with. They were nothing more than a bunch of sour-grapes Republicans, driven insane because this black man became president. Their cause was absolutely meaningless from the beginning.
What a way to waste time in your life, devoting it to a cause that has no more substance or meaning than the pet rock.
In the meantime, Obama continues to roll and is quite successful at the helm.
then since every US citizen is also a citizen of this country we would no longer have any NBC. therefor no one would be eligible for president.
Not sure why you don't understand that a US citizen is not necessarily a natural born US citizen.
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The cause was pathetic
