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Old 09-29-2010, 06:41 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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As long as it is a PRO-LABOR agenda

If you really want union campaign financing to stop, then it has to stop for corporate and special interests too.

Public Campaign Financing is the only way to do this.
Do you really think that the GOP or the Tea Party would get penny one from public campaign financing with the Obama, Reid, Pelosi group in control of that money? You are more naive than I thought.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:44 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It appears you might be a little out of sorts if people are being bussed in. There's nothing unusual for this type of thing, is there?.

Americans for Prosperity did it for Beck's rally.... for example:
BUS PACKAGE Deal to DC – Glenn Beck Restoring Honor Rally | Augusta Tea Party (http://www.augustateaparty.org/bus-package-deal-to-dc-glenn-beck-restoring-honor-rallydefending-the-dream-summit/ - broken link)

So did Freedom Works.... for example:
Events - FreedomWorks Tea Party Group

So, corporate sponsored (which FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity are) groups do it... why not labor?
Could you please tell me what business AFP is in? I didn't know they were a corporation that made or sold anything. Also, I would like to know what FreedomWorks manufactures or sells.

This anti-corporation crap being directed at these two groups makes me a bit sick.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:44 PM
 
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I would be resigning from the NEA right now if I still belonged. My wife will be retiring this year or I would demand that she stop paying union dues to the NEA this month.
So you don't "demand" (pretty strong word) for her to drop out of union NOW? Why not?
Why do you want her to have the protection of a union now, if you want her to drop out of it anyways? Do you not see the paradox ?
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:47 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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So you don't "demand" (pretty strong word) for her to drop out of union NOW? Why not?
Why do you want her to have the protection of a union now, if you want her to drop out of it anyways? Do you not see the paradox ?
I sure as hell don't see that. The only reason she is in the damned union is that they have a good coverage for possible wrongs someone might sue her for. You know what I mean I hope. She doesn't like the NEA any more than I do and doesn't even open mail from them. She will keep her protection to the very end which will be next June.
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:53 PM
 
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I sure as hell don't see that. The only reason she is in the damned union is that they have a good coverage for possible wrongs someone might sue her for. You know what I mean I hope. She doesn't like the NEA any more than I do and doesn't even open mail from them. She will keep her protection to the very end which will be next June.
So you "demand" that she stay in the union NOW because you are glad she has "good coverage for possible wrongs someone might sue her for"
Sounds like you DO see that she's getting a lot of bang for her union buck
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Old 09-29-2010, 06:58 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I am very happy to see them offering to bus their members there because it indicates that they know they can't outnumber Beck without playing that game.

In case you didn't know Beck said Monday that he hoped they got 2 million people. Of course, he was smiling pretty big when he said that. Have you looked at the website for that rally? Check it to see how many downright socialist organizations are involved in it. Actually I consider most national unions to be pretty socialist though. You may even find that the CPUSA is also involved. I wouldn't want to belong to a union knowing that they were involved, but then . . . . . . . .
Ya, I have looked at the website and their list of endorsing organizations is linked below. Looks like a lot of average American workers will be there. Knowing how much you and your man-crush Glenn Beck hate the Left, the NAACP and unions, I'm not surprised you think the One Nation rally is socialistic.

As for your comment in the first paragraph, you can't seriously think that other groups holding rallies on the mall in DC don't do the exact same thing with organizing bus rides? FreedomWorks sure provided plenty of buses for Beck's rally, or have you forgotten that?

One Nation Working Together
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:01 PM
 
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Could you please tell me what business AFP is in? I didn't know they were a corporation that made or sold anything. Also, I would like to know what FreedomWorks manufactures or sells.

This anti-corporation crap being directed at these two groups makes me a bit sick.
AFP is owned & operated by Koch Brothers of Koch Industries. 'nuff said
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:03 PM
 
Location: San Jose
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Could you please tell me what business AFP is in? I didn't know they were a corporation that made or sold anything. Also, I would like to know what FreedomWorks manufactures or sells.

This anti-corporation crap being directed at these two groups makes me a bit sick.
My intention is not to make you sick.

But Roy.... who do you think backs these groups? Whose agenda do you think they're promoting? For whom are they fronting?

That's ok.... try a google with 'Freedomworks Koch' and see how many hits you get.

Or... 'Americans prosperity funding' and look at those hits. No surprise I guess that Koch is found here also.

So... AFP and FW don't have to actually produce something to front or promote positions held by those manufacturers and corporations who fund them.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:04 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Could you please tell me what business AFP is in? I didn't know they were a corporation that made or sold anything. Also, I would like to know what FreedomWorks manufactures or sells.

This anti-corporation crap being directed at these two groups makes me a bit sick.
FreedomWorks manufactures misinformation and lies and sells it to people who call themselves Tea Party members.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:07 PM
 
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FreedomWorks manufactures misinformation and lies and sells it to people who call themselves Tea Party members.
ROFLMAO... that made my day...g'nite
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