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It's not that simple. If the bakery refused to serve them based on the fact that the order was from gay people, the bakery may have violated the law.
Imagine if a white-owned bakery refused to fill an order for a black student group, or if a conservative Christian owner refused an order for a Jewish group.
All of the news stories say that the order was initially refused because the owner didn't think it was appropriate to make rainbow cupcakes because he was against the "gay lifestyle". He later changed his story and said that he didn't have enough colors to fill the order.
The City of Indianapolis is investigating it, but in the meantime, a local radio station has announced the "1st Annual Gay Cupcake Party".
Well I just think it's never fair unless we get the whole story, too many times we only get what the accuser says and then conclusions are made and the damage is done.
Actually that is a fair question, did the cookie shop refuse because the cupcakes were rainbow or was there another reason? 100% fair question.
The baker didn't want to make the cupcakes. If the group did not reveal the symbolism behind the cupcakes, the baker would have made them.
Again, I am wondering how the baker found out they were gay.
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It's not that simple. If the bakery refused to serve them based on the fact that the order was from gay people, the bakery may have violated the law.
Imagine if a white-owned bakery refused to fill an order for a black student group, or if a conservative Christian owner refused an order for a Jewish group.
No laws were violated. The baker did not refuse to serve them, he refused to make rainbow cupcakes. A store owner refusing to make something that you ask them to make is not prosecutable discrimination. It's really not that difficult to understand.
No laws were violated. The baker did not refuse to serve them, he refused to make rainbow cupcakes. A store owner refusing to make something that you ask them to make is not prosecutable discrimination. It's really not that difficult to understand.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions about this. True, it's not a violation of the law to merely refuse an order, but if the refusal was based on the customer's sexual orientation, then it is a violation of the law in Marion County, Indiana.
Yes, the bakery has the right to refuse anyone for any reason they choose (note I even disagree with the mandates that try to insist the protected clauses should allow such). Let business take care of itself though the opinions of the individuals who attend it. We can not legislate opinion, for to do so makes us no better than those we accuse.
I wouldn't jump to conclusions about this. True, it's not a violation of the law to merely refuse an order, but if the refusal was based on the customer's sexual orientation, then it is a violation of the law in Marion County, Indiana.
There is no way that the baker refused an order because of this group's sexuality. How, again, could the baker have known these people were homosexuals unless the group made it apparent? Why did the group feel the need to let the baker know who they prefer to sleep with at night?
This could have all been avoided had the group just ordered what they wanted and said nothing more.
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The Civil Rights Act of 1964 says otherwise.
A private business has the right to refuse service to anyone. The Civil Rights Act only protects you if you can prove that your refusal of service was because you fall into one of the protected classes under the Act.
I want to see how this group is going to prove they were kicked out of the store because of their sexual orientation. They were denied rainbow colored cupcakes because of the connotation the cupcakes carry with them.
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Maybe he should have offered to make plain cupcakes instead....
