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Old 11-01-2010, 06:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Loveshiscountry View Post
As an individual go for it. More power to you. However the government is not moral. We have seen that time and time again. Why would you want something as immoral as government decide that for you?

You speak of righteous life, I hope you are against federal income tax then. Stealing is wrong except when its our government doing it, doesn't wash.


I didn't say the government was moral or not!! I'm saying that I don't want to see people walking around getting high in my face or my children's face!!! If u agree with it.. do it in your own home!! Why does everyone have to be exposed to something just cause u like it!!!

If your going to respond to my post, answer the questions I ask. Your not embarrased for your kids or elderly family members to see you with red eyes, 1/2 closed, and slurring words??

Stealing??!!?? HOw is federal income tax stealing??? Please explain.
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:41 PM
 
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I didn't say the government was moral or not!! I'm saying that I don't want to see people walking around getting high in my face or my children's face!!! If u agree with it.. do it in your own home!! Why does everyone have to be exposed to something just cause u like it!!!

If your going to respond to my post, answer the questions I ask. Your not embarrased for your kids or elderly family members to see you with red eyes, 1/2 closed, and slurring words??

Stealing??!!?? HOw is federal income tax stealing??? Please explain.

Yeah! Paying taxes is voluntary!
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:43 PM
 
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No it can't be. Alcohol is physically addictive, marijuana is not physically addictive. Marijuana can be addictive the same way food or sex are addictive.
Yeah.. but i don't remember food and sex, giving u red eyes, slur speech, and make u draggy and stupid. I hate marijuana !!!
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Old 11-01-2010, 06:46 PM
 
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Yeah! Paying taxes is voluntary!
NOpe not volunteered, but who takes care of your parks, cleen the streets, keeps down crime, pays the teachers, keeps open library's so your kids have a place to get books???? Come one people, if it was voluntary how many americans would donate to have keep these things running in their community?? No one.. because people are only concerned about themselves..
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:11 PM
 
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Aw, come on. you must have become immediately addicted to it and wandered the face of the earth with a pinched face looking for something to steal and fence. Hashish is nothing but concentrate of marijuana. If marijuana is addictive, hashish must be 50 times moreso.

If you want to know something about addicrtion, ask a drug counsellor who is a recovering addict, not a white-coated speculator who is in it for the money and who can only guess.
Yup. So am I living proof (since I freely admit I DID INHALE & walked away) that it's not addictive? Cue you of all people should know there's something different about the personality of an addict than the rest of us who have no issues. I think this war on drugs money would be better spent figuring out better policies to deal with addicts (because if its not one thing they'll only find another thing, same with dealers changing their black market inventory). It makes me want to shoot the animals selling kids crack but I'm at a loss how to end this problem. Ignoring it won't solve it either.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:14 PM
 
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Smoking dope or procuring a controlled substance is not a "right". So I don't get your premise. As a Conservative I don’t “know what is right” for the general public any more than a Liberal does. Let’s turn this around for a second. How do Liberals “know” that legalizing dope is a good thing and/or not harmful? Your “government propaganda used to instill fear in people” scenario isn’t working real well is it? Hundreds of studies have been done that have come to the same conclusion, the so called “illegal, “controlled” “harmful” or whatever label you put on it drugs are harmful in one way or another. Booze and cigarettes are a controlled product. And there is a reason why. How many people fill the drug and alcohol rehab center every day because of so called “legal” substances? If you want legalized dope, lobby for it have your voice heard at the ballot box, town hall meetings, etc. Oh by the way, good luck on that. LOL.
If you don't know if something should be legal or not, the default should always be freedom. This is America, right?

But the thing is, we do know that it should be legal. There are no good arguments for keeping it illegal. They all fail:

"I don't want kids to do it"
Drug dealers don't card, but licensed businesses do, so legalizing/regulating actually makes it harder for kids to get it.

"Drug cartels are violent"
Legalizing/regulating would put them out of business so it actually solves that problem.

"I don't want people driving stoned, and there's no breathalyzer test for it"
Driving impaired will not be legalized. And are you going to ban cough syrup and sleeping pills too? These don't have breathalyzer tests either. That's why there's a general field sobriety test.

"Any other argument"
Apply that logic to alcohol and tobacco, and ask is it worth criminalizing those drugs for the same reason?

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Old 11-01-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Texas State Fair
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What do you mean by small government? Like should the government get smaller by selling the private school system to the highest bidders from the private enterprise sector?
Well, that might be a good start, as long as the schools aren't sold to religious zealots, or anyone religious, or any zealots. Then maybe we can tax the local citizenry for financial support of their local educational systems. The 3 R's and some science. Tutors can charge a standardized rate. Arts and athletics will cost you more, depending on participation, or local advertising.
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Old 11-01-2010, 07:35 PM
 
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Generally conservatives dont seem to be in favor of legalizing marijuana. You would think wanting less government intervention and smaller government would mean legalizing it. A.

The gov should stay out of peoples business when it comes to waht they want to smoke. B. All the government agencies surrounding stopping the marijuana industry cost a fortune and dont really accomplish anything.

Just curious waht your take on this is?

I have two ideas, A. Concservatives tend to be more of a family of values, family. The other thing is the prison industry is a huge industry, we have more people in prison than any other country and private prisons make a fortune off locking up non violent marijauna offenders. Not saying Republicans are in business's pocket because dems are as bad if not worse but its a big money maker locking up people for a plant.
Risk is to high to businesses. End of story.
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Old 11-02-2010, 09:56 AM
 
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Risk is to high to businesses. End of story.
On what basis would you say that the risk is too high to businesses? Businesses already have to deal with employees abusing alcohol, perscription drugs and all the illegal substances. Since the OP's question deals with conservatives and re-legaization generally, not a specific proposal, your conclusion is premature. No one has said businesses could not test for impairment or even just drug test as they do now.

Last edited by Beaconowner; 11-02-2010 at 09:57 AM.. Reason: spelling
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Northern Alabama
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Why would you need medicaid for cancer? I know of and knew of plenty of people who have/had cancer and none of them rec'd medicaid.
I have no insurance, no income. I had Medicaid for only 24 months following my diagnosis that paid for my surgeries and follow up care. Notice I said HAD.
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