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A recent news report stated that the number of women being murdered by dead-beat-dad to avoid paying or avoiding child support payments is on the increase; and has been increasing steadily each year. The report said many of these dead-beat-dads saw murder as the only out.
Is there a flaw in the system? Is forced child support payments causing more harm than good? Could this turn into uncontrolled murders in U.S. cities, such as in other third world countries? Should Child Support laws be changed or for that matter, abolished altogether? Is it time for this issue to be addressed by congress before it gets worse?
What is your opinion?
There are deadbeat women also.
As a Divorced dad, I obtained custody of my 2 daughters, in the early 90's. I had the same problem many women have, my "X" was late on child support, didn't pay for months on end. I had to take her to court, (at one point she actually accused me of raping her paycheck). She really didn't have to pay all that much, and I finally ended up turning over the collection to Child Support Enforcement. That way she couldn't keep telling the kids their "daddy was being mean to her".
So, I can understand what a lot of women go through, I dealt with it, and more so.
Last edited by Darkatt; 07-05-2011 at 01:47 PM..
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Is there a flaw in the system? Is forced child support payments causing more harm than good?
It violates the 7th Amendment of the US Constitution:
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In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury, shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.
"Family Courts" are illegal if they award alimony or child support.
It violates the 7th Amendment of the US Constitution:
"Family Courts" are illegal if they award alimony or child support.
I believe you are incorrect. If you were accurate in your assumption, it would have been argued and already decided upon by a court. We are not talking about the value of an item, but a responsibility to support a life you helped bring into this world.
There is no item of value being held in controversy, there is however an obligation to be ½ responsible in all matters, financially and personal in the raising of the child.
The child or children, deserves to have both parents in their life/lives. Whether the mom and dad get along or not, they BOTH have an equal obligation to the child or children.
I am a dad and I can't even afford to put gas in my truck. And I pay my child support andcant afford groceries for my house and can't afford food when I do get the so tell me how that's right that I'm going to lose my job cause I can't put gas in my truck
Some situations for example Women who get pregnant unexpectidly for fornicating loves having sex with different men and suddenly they get pregnant uplanned. So they go to the other fornicating party and tells them, and 9 times out of t10 a man does not want to have a child with a woman who they did not intend to marry nor have a child with. So the women retaliates and tells him I cannot have an abortion due to religious reasons, and this is were the drama begins: " HOW THE HELL YOU DONT ACCEPT ABORTION DUE TO RELIGIOUS REASONS AND YET YOU FORNICATE WITH DIFFERENT MEN ON THE WEEKENDS?" Now as you can see this is called selective hearing of religion. Please do not use religion as a defense if your not truly following the word of God that is a disrespect to God himself. Following along women say " I dont need your sorry ass anyways then two weeks later shes puts him on child support". Women put a title on this matter "DEADBEAT", and well their title is "GOVERNMENT RAT because their always looking for that government CHEESE". Having this said anyone with integrity and will to succeed does not need child support. Plus why should a MAN pay a women child support if she can drop of the kids on the weekends and the MAN can spend the money on them himself?
Reducing or eliminating child support payments to avoid murder is not the answer.
My FIL paid my MIL a ridiculous amount of money and she makes a lot more than he does, but my FIL gave the money with a giving heart. He loved his kids and still wanted to provide for them. He never even questioned it. Does anyone think of the kids anymore???
Are you implying that if the court ordered one of the parents to pay ten trillion dollars a year in child support payment, then the parent should pay that without question, and not seek to have the amount lowered simply because "it's for the children?" It seems as if you are implying the amount should never be challenged, simply out of kindness.
How you seemingly manage to conflate two entirely separate matters into one paragraph is beyond me. There's (a) what the parent is willing to give to their child, ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THEY JUSTIFIABLY OWE, purely out of their own generosity. And then there is (b) the matter of what they justifiably owe, as a matter of obligation. The latter absolutely can (and) often should be challenged in court. It's bad law and ethics not to do otherwise (to never challenge). Nothing precludes the parent from them voluntarily giving an amount above and beyond what they owe.
Last edited by FreedomThroughAnarchism; 10-09-2011 at 08:51 PM..
The Government should deal with drug dealers and terrorist but instead they put their noses everywhere and in anything to make some drama happen. I say stay out of our family problems and there wouldnt be drama. It looks as if the government loves those women because most of their lives couldnt get one.
I would rather the government force child support than have society support the child through welfare. Of course I am sure there are mothers who get child support AND are on various handout programs.
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