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Old 10-03-2010, 07:21 PM
 
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It's an ancient Buddhist and Hindu symbol that was adopted by the nazi party in the 20th century.

Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:26 PM
 
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So every kid that wears a sheet over his head on Halloween is a Klan member??
No, because it's widely accepted that a sheet over a kid at Halloween represents a ghost. Other than Nazism can you tell me the other meanings of a swastika in modern western pop culture?
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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It's an ancient Buddhist and Hindu symbol that was adopted by the nazi party in the 20th century.

Swastika - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Yup, we went over that on the first page.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:28 PM
 
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No, because it's widely accepted that a sheet over a kid at Halloween represents a ghost. Other than Nazism can you tell me the other meanings of a swastika in modern western pop culture?
Not yet because it's still taboo. You probably won't be around when it's in common use again.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:33 PM
 
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Not yet because it's still taboo. You probably won't be around when it's in common use again.
Thank you for being honest. You made my point

If you asked 100 people what a kid in a white sheet was supposed to be I bet 100 outta 100 would say a ghost. If you showed those same 100 people the tie that Byron Scott was wearing and asked them about the symbol on it, 100 would discuss it's association of Hitler, Nazism and the intended genocide of over 8 million people; zero would say that it's a Hindu symbol.

Another poster made a good point; do you think it would receive the same non reaction had a white coach wore it? Or what would the reaction have been had he wore a tie with the confederate flag on it, as another poster mentioned? I enjoy sociology and these are quite interesting questions.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:41 PM
 
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Try walking through a Jewish neighborhood wearing THAT tie?
You'd get the same "welcome", as a KKK march through Harlem.

Steve
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:42 PM
 
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Thank you for being honest. You made my point

If you asked 100 people what a kid in a white sheet was supposed to be I bet 100 outta 100 would say a ghost. If you showed those same 100 people the tie that Byron Scott was wearing and asked them about the symbol on it, 100 would discuss it's association of Hitler, Nazism and the intended genocide of over 8 million people; zero would say that it's a Hindu symbol.

Another poster made a good point; do you think it would receive the same non reaction had a white coach wore it? Or what would the reaction have been had he wore a tie with the confederate flag on it, as another poster mentioned? I enjoy sociology and these are quite interesting questions.
It will be tried and tested during our time though and knowing that means I'm not going to get upset. If people aren't saiyng "look at me I'm a Nazi" when using this shape I don't care if it's used. After awhile it will be OK for everyone. Time matters when it comes to stuff like this.

We place a lot of importance on symbolism, sometimes ridiculously so.
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Old 10-03-2010, 07:48 PM
 
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In terms of historical context... it may only be a footnote as far as when it was used in the 20th century... If it's a silk tie, it was probably made in China...
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:13 PM
 
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It will be tried and tested during our time though and knowing that means I'm not going to get upset. If people aren't saiyng "look at me I'm a Nazi" when using this shape I don't care if it's used. After awhile it will be OK for everyone. Time matters when it comes to stuff like this.

We place a lot of importance on symbolism, sometimes ridiculously so.
I agree, but I am also interested in the potential of a double standard that other posters mentioned in this thread. What say you about that?
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Old 10-03-2010, 08:24 PM
 
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Thank you for being honest. You made my point

If you asked 100 people what a kid in a white sheet was supposed to be I bet 100 outta 100 would say a ghost. If you showed those same 100 people the tie that Byron Scott was wearing and asked them about the symbol on it, 100 would discuss it's association of Hitler, Nazism and the intended genocide of over 8 million people; zero would say that it's a Hindu symbol.

Another poster made a good point; do you think it would receive the same non reaction had a white coach wore it? Or what would the reaction have been had he wore a tie with the confederate flag on it, as another poster mentioned? I enjoy sociology and these are quite interesting questions.
I'm trying to remember who composed that political cartoon that had a couple of cops shooting a monkey with the caption Now they'll have to get someone else to right the Stimulus package. The outcry was that the cartoonist supposedly intended the monkey to be Obama. Of course in all likelihood that was not the case. And then there's the Hallmark card "Black Hos" fiasco. Every post I wrote concerning those events stated that basically people were seeing things that weren't there, and now and then we have to give each other the benefit of the doubt, especially here in a multi-ethnic society.

Personally I don't know what the reaction would be if a white head coach wore such a tie. I'm thinking it would get a couple of rolled eyes and a chuckle or two, which is pretty much what Byron Scott has received. But who knows. Maybe it would have snowballed into something silly. Obviously it's happened before.
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