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We should just let real business folks find a way to bring down health care costs, and it won't cost us trillions of dollars and and put the feds in charge of our lives either.
Many of its most ardent critics have put down their pitchforks. Andrew L. Stern, whose Service Employees International Union set up an advocacy group to attack Wal-Mart three years ago, now concedes that “there is clearly a focus on covering more people.”
This year, after store managers bombarded workers with information, Ms. Wagner chose a plan costing about $500 a year with a $350 deductible. “It’s very affordable for me,” she said. Ultimately, Wal-Mart may have an even bigger effect as it brings its legendary cost-cutting skills to the broader health industry, selling anything from wheelchairs to health insurance for much lower prices
I purchased 5 prescription medications at Walmart the other day, serious medications, altogether they cost me $40. I have insurance through work but the copay for my meds is $25 per medication. I am lucky these particular ones are available through Walmart for cheaper. I couldn't afford them even WITH insurance otherwise and these are meds that I can not live without.
Well, in case you haven't noticed the majority of posts have stated that Walmart offers a pleasant work environment. When one person can't get over 12 hours per week you can't just ASSUME that it's the employer now can you? Well, I guess you can.
It's sad when some people can't move past their ideology to see the good that has come from something they don't personally promote. Maybe there are some medications Walmart doesn't offer, but if, as a nurse, most of your patients haven't benefitted by the $4 perscriptions that Walmart or any other company that followed them offer, you are doing them a disservice by not pointing it out to them.
Commie propaganda. Yes, comrade, the comrade-friendly Walmart provides a "pleasant work environment"... Yeah right.
It's just a bunch of propaganda by a bunch of pro-walmart radical right-wing commie-lovers on a forum known to be dominated by the radical right wingnuts. "Oh, Walmart is great! Wha they done lemme git a drank o' water one time!!! An' one time they done lemme have an extra 10 seconds on break all paid an EVERYTHANG!!!"
Walmart is crap. Also it is a myth that it Walmart is cheaper across the board than other stores. I get better prices on most things by shopping at places other than Walmart, and on many of those things the quality is better than the junk Walmart sells.
I'm glad to see they've moved forward into covering their employees more with health insurance, if the article is reliable. Now if they can just treat their workers more fairly and stop acting as a clearinghouse for Communist China then maybe I can look at them as an option. But I'd rather not support the biggest agent for Communist China like so many Commies in the USA want to.
Like the ones behind the big rally in DC last week??? I didn't realize there were so many communist/socialist organizations in the US. Scary!!!!
That is not even within the realm of reality. My sister worked for Kroger all the time she went to college and and the typical store only has 4 stock people. Typically 3 of them work the overnight shift and they each have an area that they are responsible for completely re stocking and it has to be done just right because many of the products actually pay the store for being placed in certain shelves in certain areas of the store and being displayed in a certain manner. The other stock person works in the day and maintains the stock if items get low because of an unexpected run on certain items. And they all have to stop their jobs and help out up front if the cashiers get backed up. So whoever told you that 3 guys stand around is telling a lie.
Have you ever driven through a road construction zone????
Like the ones behind the big rally in DC last week??? I didn't realize there were so many communist/socialist organizations in the US. Scary!!!!
They're not communist, they're radical right wingnuts. Pay attention. They are just in bed with the communists, because they're immoral hypocrites and liars.
The problem is that too many of you are clueless, blinded by the "CHEAP!!!!" that Walmart sells you (and it's not even real!!!).
We should just let real business folks find a way to bring down health care costs, and it won't cost us trillions of dollars and and put the feds in charge of our lives either.
Many of its most ardent critics have put down their pitchforks. Andrew L. Stern, whose Service Employees International Union set up an advocacy group to attack Wal-Mart three years ago, now concedes that “there is clearly a focus on covering more people.”
This year, after store managers bombarded workers with information, Ms. Wagner chose a plan costing about $500 a year with a $350 deductible. “It’s very affordable for me,” she said. Ultimately, Wal-Mart may have an even bigger effect as it brings its legendary cost-cutting skills to the broader health industry, selling anything from wheelchairs to health insurance for much lower prices
It pleases me to no end that a corporate giant making billions has dropped the strategy of gaming the welfare system to offset expenses at the expense of employees and taxpayers. Now we can take the merits of capitalism a little more seriously, can't we? Walmart you're all that and a bag of chips-- show me! No one needs a union, a labor board, or legislation when everyone is doing the right thing by one another. It's not so awful and beats the hell out of nasty smear campaigns on unions or shining daylight on nasty business practices.
It pleases me to no end that ford motor company retracted it's bailout request and picked itself up by the bootstraps with forward thinking plans.
It would please me to no end when words and deeds match in this nation. It's not so awful. It's not so hard. Capitalism trumps Obamacare... I'd love to see that because that's been the point all along. Capitalism providing better will mean Obamacare can sit in on the shelf gathering dust just in case the well heeled decide not to play fair & prey on America again.
It pleases me to no end that a corporate giant making billions has dropped the strategy of gaming the welfare system to offset expenses at the expense of employees and taxpayers. Now we can take the merits of capitalism a little more seriously, can't we? Walmart you're all that and a bag of chips-- show me! No one needs a union, a labor board, or legislation when everyone is doing the right thing by one another. It's not so awful and beats the hell out of nasty smear campaigns on unions or shining daylight on nasty business practices.
It pleases me to no end that ford motor company retracted it's bailout request and picked itself up by the bootstraps with forward thinking plans.
It would please me to no end when words and deeds match in this nation. It's not so awful. It's not so hard. Capitalism trumps Obamacare... I'd love to see that because that's been the point all along. Capitalism providing better will mean Obamacare can sit in on the shelf gathering dust just in case the well heeled decide not to play fair & prey on America again.
Of course, the article in the OP was from 2007 and things seem to have gone back to rip-off as usual for Walmart...
According to the guide to annual enrollment that Walmart distributed to its associates in September-October 2009 for benefit year 2010, Walmart’s 2010 health care offerings include cheap premiums of $27 per pay period for family coverage, or $702 per year, however this plan has a high annual deductible of $4,400. In addition, Walmart associates covered by the health plan face a $10,000 out-of-pocket maximum.
Wake-Up Wal-Mart: The Real Wal-Mart Facts (http://www.wakeupwalmart.com/facts/healthcare.html - broken link)
Oh well, so much for "capitalism trumps Obamacare". If Walmart didn't spend so much money keeping unions from forming amongst their workers, they could spend that money on affordable, legitimate healthcare for their workers so that they would have no desire to organize in the first place. But what fun is that for Walmart? Much more fun for them to make their employees hurt - why should Walmart's Communist Chinese partners have all the fun of slave labor???
1. It's already been documented that a few stores in the chain were resorting to this strategy.
2. UPS was another company resorting to this strategy. They were also going as far as sending someone home mid day for x amount of hours, calling them back onto shift to avoid overtime hourly rates beyond 8hrs. They also would work people a total of 39.75 hrs a week to avoid full benefits package under p/t clause. It's a lot of nuisance work being that crafty managing the minutes of employees and for some odd reason they believed it saved them big. It was penny wise and pound foolish. It was the last straw call for unions to take up a fight on behalf of labor. They did it to themselves.
3. I've been on both sides of the fence (labor/mgmt). I knew my own company's policy and every reason they made their decisions. I also knew how much resentment it cost them going about things the way they did, and that never makes it's way onto a balance sheet until well after the fact when they see their retention rate costing them twice what they thought they were saving. The human capital they failed to appreciate left them, taking with them intimate knowledge that kept the wheels turning without much down time. I guess dedicated employees aren't a bunch of dumb apes 'not smart enough to get someone else to paint their own fence' after all?
4. I also know how insanely priced health care is bad for all business, but when enough fortune 500 companies see they have a horse in the race and enough of them get sick to death of getting squeezed (not by employees, but the insurance industry) there's likely to be more muscle pushing back than the mere 80% citizens sick to death of insurance abuses left right and sideways.
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Have you ever driven through a road construction zone????
No wonder our infrastructure is crap.
When an officer has his troops standing at attention for a few hours because he didn't get around to making up his mind what's next, should we blame the troops??? I know I'd have my head handed to me for that when I had the hat on, but joe the plumber knows better to blame the dog catcher for pot holes. He's 'entitled'.
Jury duty, I've always been paid for it too. Perhaps some states mandate that but lets agree none of us know for sure, it's irrelevant to the thread & quit the juvenile delinquent routine. You're only telling me who never to vote for with every asinine comment. A pledge of allegiance to the united states of walmart is renouncing your citizenship. Go for it.
Okay, I have my copy of the medical plan in front of me and here's what it says...
Per pay period:
Employee only $30.30, Employee and Spouse $54.80, Employee and Children $38.00, Employee and Family $60.90.
Annual Deductible Maximum:
$1,250, individual and $2,500 family.
Out of pocket Maximum:
$5,000 individual and $10,000 family. (This does sound like a lot but medical expenses can skyrocket to WAY more than that, depending on the illness, etc.)
They pay 80% toward all preventitive care which goes toward the co pay maximum but not the out of pocket med. costs. The preventitive care plan covers a LOT from birth to ???
Co pays for prescriptions depends on the amount of the prescription:
30 days, $4...60 days, $8...90 days, $12.
Dental coverage can be added for from $6.20 mo. for individual up to $19.70 for family.
Eye care is a flat 20% discount for employees/families.
They also offer other types of insurance, at a reasonable rate, and 401k, etc. and stock option plan.
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Yeah right.
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