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Old 10-03-2010, 09:14 PM
 
Location: Houston area, for now
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What would you do to correct that? Force them to vote, whether they wanted to or not?
No it's a personal decision. In my view it's irresponsible but no one can force another to be responsible. However I will encourage a person to vote.

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Never forget that no vote is as much an expression of the public will as a vote is. There are a thousand reasons why people don't vote, but the most common is that they are satisfied with things the way they are.
I think the most common is a person feels a can't win anyway philosophy.

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Consequently, a no-show is a vote for the status quo and STILL an expression of the Will of The People.
Three things with that. How many people when talking politics aren't even registered. People show an interest but fail to be a voice. People are never happy with the status quo. I swear someplace in the presidential oath of office it should say "And be prepared to be the most criticized man on the planet".
Second, We as a people have a bad habit of voting against and not for. In 08 allot of people voted against the Republican machine not for President Obama.
Third many people don't vote because they cannot agree with a candidate on either side. Some who didn't vote chose not to because of Senator McCain's statement to keep the US armed forces in Iraq for 100 years if need be. At the same time they disagreed with President Obama feeling that he was to much of a celebrity. As a result they didn't vote because of a feeling of a lack of options.

Look at this Pew Poll. Read the whole thing but notice the top graph that out lines how frequently people vote and the differences between frequent and non frequent answers.
http://people-press.org/report/292/w...doesnt-and-why

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Old 10-03-2010, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Dewmik View Post
No it's a personal decision. In my view it's irresponsible but no one can force another to be responsible. However I will encourage a person to vote.


I think the most common is a person feels a can't win anyway philosophy.


Three things with that. How many people when talking politics aren't even registered. People show an interest but fail to be a voice. People are never happy with the status quo. I swear someplace in the presidential oath of office it should say "And be prepared to be the most criticized man on the planet".
Second, We as a people have a bad habit of voting against and not for. In 08 allot of people voted against the Republican machine not for President Obama.
Third many people don't vote because they cannot agree with a candidate on either side. Some who didn't vote chose not to because of Senator McCain's statement to keep the US armed forces in Iraq for 100 years if need be. At the same time they disagreed with President Obama feeling that he was to much of a celebrity. As a result they didn't vote because of a feeling of a lack of options.

Look at this Pew Poll. Notice the top graph that out lines how frequently people vote and the differences between frequent and non frequent answers.
Who Votes, Who Doesn't, and Why: Summary of Findings - Pew Research Center for the People & the Press

Whenever people are dissatisfied enough, they'll vote, in spite of any difficulties. Occassionally, we'll see a larger than usual turn out (such as in 2008 or 1960) and it's because something has come up which makes them intolerant of the status quo any longer. When they don't vote in large numbers, it simply means they're not disturbed enough about the way things are to actually overcome the impediments and vote. In other words, they're content enough to warrant avoiding the polls.

Of course, we rarely see much over 50% of eligible voters go the polls, but that's nothing new. It's been the case here since the beginning. So has the number of people who aren't even registered and have no intention registering.

Why? I agree with D'Touqueville: It's because there is nothing in the election which is important to them personally. We vote our self interest, which shouldn't be surprising because this is a nation founded on self interest. In national elections, on national issues, fewer people vote because they don't see a connection between the issues of the day and them personally. For instance, it's hard to get excited about a candidate who promises new roads, but if he's promising a new road on YOUR property, it's suddenly in your personal interest to vote.

Neither national party seems to understand that as they run campaigns focused on either large issues or on the other candidate. Not surprisingly, they have a hard time turning out the vote.
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Old 10-04-2010, 02:03 AM
 
Location: North Pacific
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Where do you get your thoughts?
The government (will of man) and the thought control police.
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