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Old 10-08-2010, 08:48 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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What Nixon did was child's play compared to modern politicians.
Really?

You can make a good case the wind down of Vietnam was manipulated to benefit his re-election campaign. Extending a war for personal reasons while placing people in harm's way is child's play?

So much for family values, or any values really
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:48 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Never did get the low down on that... was the mission ever accomplished?

I wonder what happened to that banner?
The banner referred to that CV battle group's mission when they were returning to base. Millitary ships often have flown some ornimentation to indicate success when returning to port. In WW2 a submarine would fly a broom to indicate 'clean sweep' when they had had a patrol where every torpedo fired had hit its target (something very rare at the time).
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Old 10-08-2010, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Clearwater Florida
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The "mission" was accomplished. The only problem was, we knocked over a metric-shiitload of dominos, some that are still on the tumble. It was the obvious "fight" we could win, after 9/11. We still don't know where Bin Laden is, but Saddam stood right up and wagged his middle finger at just the right time for George to make an argument for ears in desire of a fight. We should have just cleaned out the treasures of Iraq, never even looked for Saddam and told him in sky writing, that it's your mess we'll be leaving with the gold and fifty freighters full of oil. Nation building is for chumps.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:29 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Does this mean we're doomed to suffering another Nixon?
Not unless the Left grows a pair, admits O's lying, and fills the streets with antiwar protestors.

Wait a minute, though. That's why we got rid of the draft. To shut the Left up. Guess it worked.

Now we let the sons of the Tea Party fight liberal wars.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Obama is not LBJ, he inherited this war from Bush. Afghanistan is Obama's Vietnam however, due to the latest surge.
And LBJ inherited it from JFK. And started the deficit spiral with HIS basket of goodies and a huge Dem majority in Congress. Doesn't any of this sound familiar?

The only thing that is missing is a liberal press outraged at a senseless, unwinnable war.

Guess they've learned to live the hypocrisy they studied in college.
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Obama is not LBJ, he inherited this war from Bush. Afghanistan is Obama's Vietnam however, due to the latest surge.
Surge? With Obama's rules of engagement? Wasn't it him that promised we would begin withdrawing in spring, 2011? Somehow I have to wonder just how any kind of surge could be successful with his methods of fighting and his promise to leave.
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Old 10-08-2010, 09:42 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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Surge? With Obama's rules of engagement? Wasn't it him that promised we would begin withdrawing in spring, 2011? Somehow I have to wonder just how any kind of surge could be successful with his methods of fighting and his promise to leave.

We cannot win with his idiotic ways of fighting.

He has our troops with their hands tied behind their backs.

He wants our troops to have tea and crumpets with the enemy who he still wont call terrorist or criminals.

The mission will be accomplished once we get rid of the entire dem party running things.

When 2012 rolls around and we are done with the entire dem party and the idiot in the WH then and only then will the mission be accomplished.
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Old 10-09-2010, 03:18 AM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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Never did get the low down on that... was the mission ever accomplished?

I wonder what happened to that banner?
Why do so many people fail to understand that "Mission Accomplished" meant the end of major combat?
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Old 10-09-2010, 04:15 AM
 
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And LBJ inherited it from JFK.
Who inherited it from Eisenhower.

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And started the deficit spiral with HIS basket of goodies and a huge Dem majority in Congress.
The deficit in LBJ's final budget was a surplus. Kind of damages your theory a little. There have been five surpluses in the past fifty years -- all by Democrats.

Cumulative Deficits by Party, 1962-2008

Democrats (20 years): $243.3 billion
Republicans (27 years): $4,847.4 billion

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The only thing that is missing is a liberal press outraged at a senseless, unwinnable war.
We already won it once. But then Bushie marched off on his foolish foray into Iraq, handing Afghanistan right back to the Taliban. Trading one victory for two defeats. That's some kind of excellent strategery.

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Guess they've learned to live the hypocrisy they studied in college.
Along with history, Republicans have reinvented hypocrisy since then.
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Old 10-09-2010, 04:25 AM
 
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Why do so many people fail to understand that "Mission Accomplished" meant the end of major combat?
US troops killed in Iraq prior to the "end of major combat": 139
US troops killed in Iraq since the "end of major combat": 4,285
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