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Government assistance was just fine with Miller while he was getting it, but now he would deny that same help to others. What outrageous hypocrisy ...typical teabagger
wrong... he wants to eliminate it... and he understands that he USED IT...and now doesnt want others to use it. DONT CONSTRICT MY CHOICES OBAMAesc Miller!!!! i want the choice to use medicaid.
"average American?" you mean a C student don't you. i think i would rather vote for an extra-ordinary American thank you.
It used to be the Democrat party that was in the side of bigoted conservative/regresives, now its the Republican party. Obviously you would support a random draw lottery system of representation...your an idiot. stop voting for yourself...vote for someone better, or else run for office if you think u are the best with your "averageness" ROTFL
Is this the profile of a "C" student?
After graduating from law school, Miller accepted a position at a prestigious law firm in Anchorage. Just three years later, at the age of 30, he was appointed as a State Magistrate (the youngest then serving in Alaska) as well as a Superior Court Master for the Fourth Judicial District. Further honors followed four years later when Miller was appointed an Acting State District Court Judge and, shortly thereafter, U.S. Magistrate Judge in Fairbanks. Again, he had the distinction of being the youngest then serving in that federal position, not only in the state, but also in the entire nation....................
.............Prior to becoming an attorney and a judge, Miller served as an officer in the United States Army. He was awarded the Bronze Star for his leadership in combat during the First Gulf War. He received his commission from West Point, where he graduated with honors. Joe is also a graduate of Yale Law School and holds a master’s degree in economics from the University of Alaska.
Explain how I can be a hypocrite for taking advantage of something I'm paying for.
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It is absurd beyond comprehension that you could ever, in a thousand years, put the few dollars a year that come out of your check for Medicaid, into any kind of personal savings plan and remotely be able to rely on it for your individual medical needs, let alone the needs of a family, especially a family of ten. Ridiculous on its face.
So how does the government do it then? In some way, shape or form I'm paying for it, my neighbor is paying for it or my Grandkids will pay for it. While on the topic this argument "it's just a couple bucks" is ridiculous because when we add up all the things that "are just a couple of bucks" it's a substantial amount of money.
Lastly just because you can't take a few dollars and turn it over into more money over a very long time doesn't mean the rest of us do not have that ability.
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if not, then please move on because he is now recovering from his lapse of judgement at that time.
Interesting, so past behavior and choices are in fact not relevant when deciding whether a candidate should get your vote. That's cool, just like the Catholic church, sin, confess, gone, start over- yippee!
Or is it just typical politician behavior, listen and believe what I say to get elected but do not look into my past to see if I'm being hypocritical with my statements and professed beliefs today?
I suspect given his life experience that Miller can understand the plight of many on public assistance better than Princess Lisa "I'm-entitled-to-that-seat" Murkowski or his Democrat opponent.
Once again an "average American" runs for office and liberal elitist treat him as though he is something that needs to be wiped off the bottom of their shoe. It used to be the Democrat party was the party of the average American. Obviously that is no longer the case and the Democrats have become the party of snobs.
You are defending a man who used socialized health care while at the same time having a moniker that says, "Stop Socialism, fire progressives"?
So which is it, do you stand against socialized programs like Medicaid and those who use them on some principle, or do you wish this man to be fired?
OR as they case more likely is, its ok that a person you support uses or used socialized health care because he must have had a good reason since he believes as you believe? (feel free to rationalize, I'm dying to hear it)
Thats what happens when you support personalities instead of issues; you end up defending the very thing you allegedly are so sanctimoniously against.
Interesting, so past behavior and choices are in fact not relevant when deciding whether a candidate should get your vote. That's cool, just like the Catholic church, sin, confess, gone, start over- yippee!
Or is it just typical politician behavior, listen and believe what I say to get elected but do not look into my past to see if I'm being hypocritical with my statements and professed beliefs today?
you did make your point, but you also have to remember that getting medicaid is not illegal. when I retire I will qualify for socialized security and medicaid both, I just choose to not get either at retirement age.
Explain how I can be a hypocrite for taking advantage of something I'm paying for.
If you advocate against something, but take advantage of it yourself, you're a hypocrite. It's the basic definition.
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While on the topic this argument "it's just a couple bucks" is ridiculous because when we add up all the things that "are just a couple of bucks" it's a substantial amount of money.
If they stopped withholding just the couple of dollars of your taxes that are being utilized for Medicaid, you wouldn't even notice it. And at the end of the year, you'd be lucky if you could buy a latte from Starbucks with it.
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Lastly just because you can't take a few dollars and turn it over into more money over a very long time doesn't mean the rest of us do not have that ability.
You're not Rumpelstiltskin, and neither is the vast majority of average, middle America.
Don't take the money out of his paycheck and you'd have a point.
Wrong. Principled people stand up for their positions and put their money where their mouth is, even at personal cost. They don't do what's expedient if that goes against their principle.
Then there is this:
Miller, who has eight children, said that his family “absolutely” received Denali KidCare, a state-run program that includes federal Medicaid money.
Miller criticized Sen. Lisa Murkowski in June during the campaign for the Republican primary for supporting Denali KidCare, given that money from it pays for abortions.
“As you are aware, just last week the Anchorage Daily News reported that the Denali KidCare Program funded 662 abortions last year. Senator Murkowski has been a champion of this program, voting against the majority of her Republican colleagues for CHIPRA (HR 2) in January of 2009,” Miller wrote in a fundraising letter.
Miller said Thursday that his criticism was about expanding the program — not of the program itself.
Oh, what a convenient explanation.
Latest news is he is under mountains of personal debt. Great news for a champion of fiscal and personal responsibility!
You are defending a man who used socialized health care while at the same time having a moniker that says, "Stop Socialism, fire progressives"?
So which is it, do you stand against socialized programs like Medicaid and those who use them on some principle, or do you wish this man to be fired?
OR as they case more likely is, its ok that a person you support uses or used socialized health care because he must have had a good reason since he believes as you believe? (feel free to rationalize, I'm dying to hear it)
Thats what happens when you support personalities instead of issues; you end up defending the very thing you allegedly are so sanctimoniously against.
You could call the VA healthcare system socialized too, or maybe that is what you are getting at. As a US soldier that healthcare is part of his pay, IMO, just like anyone who has a pension or health insurance from their company when they leave.
As far as Medicaid, can you tell me that he has taken out more in Medicaid benefits than he put in though his taxes? Have you seen his paperwork, both federal and state? link please
I am not supporting personalities. I do support issues. I also don't make personal attacks. Too bad you are not mature enough to do the same.
Government assistance was just fine with Miller while he was getting it, but now he would deny that same help to others. What outrageous hypocrisy ...typical teabagger
So what's the big deal. The guy says he thinks these programs should be run by the states, he doesn't want to eliminate them.
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i think i would rather vote for an extra-ordinary American thank you. 
for you, truly.
