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Old 10-08-2010, 03:16 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Yes, I think we've all realized that the Bush years were indeed a horrible mistake. Never again!
Seems most Americans see obama as a mistake too.
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Old 10-08-2010, 03:20 PM
 
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Seems most Americans see obama as a mistake too.
The problem is he is continuing to harm our country. I've never seen anything like it really. A complete disregard for the people and what the people.
He thinks he knows what is best for us, and that is frightening.

Perfect example of power corupts. Though coming from Chi town and that mess he was pretty well corupt when he took office.
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Old 10-08-2010, 03:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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The problem is he is continuing to harm our country. I've never seen anything like it really. A complete disregard for the people and what the people [sic].
He thinks he knows what is best for us, and that is frightening.

Perfect example of power corupts. Though coming from Chi town and that mess he was pretty well corupt when he took office.
That's funny. I seem to remember that the legislation he has pushed is pretty much exactly what he ran on and the people chose fairly overwhelmingly to vote for Obama/Biden over the alternative. If the majority didn't want that, they should have elected McCain/Nitwit. So many Americans are fickle--what's new?
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Old 10-08-2010, 04:01 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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That's funny. I seem to remember that the legislation he has pushed is pretty much exactly what he ran on and the people chose fairly overwhelmingly to vote for Obama/Biden over the alternative. If the majority didn't want that, they should have elected McCain/Nitwit. So many Americans are fickle--what's new?
He campaigned against pork.
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Old 10-08-2010, 04:16 PM
 
Location: The High Seas
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I couldn't help notice that you wrote 'bush' and not 'Bush'.
I'll take bush over either of the other two.
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Old 10-08-2010, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Dallas, Texas
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He campaigned against pork.
Every politician campaigns against pork. It's a part of the system, unfortunately. There's no simple way to eliminate it, especially when members of Congress from both sides of the aisle insert it into legislation at every conceivable chance and the President doesn't have the power of the line-item veto. Elimination of "pork" is impossible under the current system.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Bush is the better president, hands down. I did not care for his border policy, but he was by far a better leader and did reach out across the divide and tried to include Dems in his decision making. That has become very clear. He did not create racial discontent like this clod is doing.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Oxygen Ln. AZ
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Yes, I think we've all realized that the Bush years were indeed a horrible mistake. Never again!
Durning the Bush years we saw growth in the economy and we made far better money than we do now. He did protect this country and served it with honor, loved and still loves our troops. This president and his policies are to blame for the 10 percent unemployment now, not Bush.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:24 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Every politician campaigns against pork. It's a part of the system, unfortunately. There's no simple way to eliminate it, especially when members of Congress from both sides of the aisle insert it into legislation at every conceivable chance and the President doesn't have the power of the line-item veto. Elimination of "pork" is impossible under the current system.
He also campaigned on transparency and promised legislation would be viewable online, etc., before he would sign it. Didn't happen with healthcare or several other items. He vowed to shut down gitmo...hasn't happened. He campaigned against wiretapping without warrants, now he wants to expand that. He's gone further than Bush and has authorized that U.S. citizens be assassinated without trial.

I could dig up more but that should suffice.
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Old 10-08-2010, 05:44 PM
 
Location: west central Georgia
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Bush tried to push it though congress but they rejected it. After that they made up the WMD's lie and the threats of national security which then the democrats voted in favor, that most all today deeply regret.
It's been discussed on this board many times which dems were in favor of the war before wmd's.
PROVE that they regret it now.
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