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Old 10-10-2010, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Lafayette, Louisiana
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I'm in the technology end of the entertainment and political/corporate events, business. Industrial use LEDs are quite powerful with varied uses and applications in the industry. You can filter LEDS to give you any color light you want. I also wonder why the technology hasn't crossed over to commercial/consumer usage.
It wasn't about light color. It was about the distance the light throws out to be effective. LEDs are very bright and intense light but they don't shine very far. They're getting better. For example, my LED Maglite flashlight shines further than the first LED flashlight I purchased but it still doesn't throw the light as far as the regular Maglite of the same battery power. LEDs work well as recessed accent lighting but still aren't very good as undercounter workspace lighting. One big place LED bulbs should be located in in aviation lights (airplane exterior, tower lights, and building roof lights). LEDs are visible even through thick heavy fog.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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It wasn't about light color. It was about the distance the light throws out to be effective. LEDs are very bright and intense light but they don't shine very far. They're getting better. For example, my LED Maglite flashlight shines further than the first LED flashlight I purchased but it still doesn't throw the light as far as the regular Maglite of the same battery power. LEDs work well as recessed accent lighting but still aren't very good as undercounter workspace lighting. One big place LED bulbs should be located in in aviation lights (airplane exterior, tower lights, and building roof lights). LEDs are visible even through thick heavy fog.
Maybe so in the consumer level, but I use strips of LEDs for uplighting/backlighting major sets. The big advantage is where it took 250 AMPs to do the job it only takes 30 now. I agree that for ambient lighting more work needs to be done on the technology before you can screw in an LED and get the same effect as a 100W incadescent.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:41 PM
 
Location: California
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I thought we were going green? now our harmless bulbs will all be replaced with China made poisonous light bulbs, smart move.
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Old 10-10-2010, 03:53 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I thought we were going green? now our harmless bulbs will all be replaced with China made poisonous light bulbs, smart move.
It's a socialist, communist, progressive conspiracy designed to keep republicans in the dark. That's what I think.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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not a good comparison. First off, at the time the buggy was replaced with motorized vehicles, those motorized vehicles were still produced within this country (USA). Secondly, there is still a valid need for traditional bulbs over fluorscent bulbs. Exterior lighting in cold weather works best with traditional bulbs over fluorescent bulbs because the fluorescent lights don't put out the same amount of light in cold temperatures. Then third problem with your comparison is when the switch was made from horse and buggy to motorized vehicles, it was not a US government mandate by Congress. It was the result of free market capitalism. The same thing was happening gradually with the light bulbs. Though long since outdated, there are still people who ride a horse and buggy. Though you may consider traditional bulbs to be outdated, I'm sure people in cold climates would like their traditional bulbs for outdoor lighting until they can make a low cost and better light LED bulb. And lastly, there are some people who get headaches from living and working in fluorescent lighted spaces. I'm sure they'd love to keep their traditional bulbs rather than spend $40 to $100 for an LED bulb, when they ever get it to throw light like a traditional bulb.
Exactly. And compared to other devices that use energy, traditional bulbs in homes are a nit.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Maybe so in the consumer level, but I use strips of LEDs for uplighting/backlighting major sets. The big advantage is where it took 250 AMPs to do the job it only takes 30 now. I agree that for ambient lighting more work needs to be done on the technology before you can screw in an LED and get the same effect as a 100W incadescent.

This law is all about consumer use of bulbs and LED is not a viable alternative. 99.9% of consumer use does not require color, so that is of no use.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:25 PM
 
Location: California
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It's a socialist, communist, progressive conspiracy designed to keep republicans in the dark. That's what I think.
Well then I'm off to the underground shelter
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Northern Wi
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Just think how many carbon credits are saved so the elite can sell them to other countries. The international climate exchange will be rockin. That is the BIG picture and the only one that really matters to them.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:42 PM
 
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Just think how many carbon credits are saved so the elite can sell them to other countries. The international climate exchange will be rockin. That is the BIG picture and the only one that really matters to them.
The largest ponzi scheme ever devised with Al Gore and Barack Obama at the center.
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Old 10-10-2010, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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I'm in the technology end of the entertainment and political/corporate events, business. Industrial use LEDs are quite powerful with varied uses and applications in the industry. You can filter LEDS to give you any color light you want. I also wonder why the technology hasn't crossed over to commercial/consumer usage.
It's common sense really.

First issue is cost. Manufacturing LEDs for industry is not the same as manufacturing for home use.

I'm mean yeah, sure, you could have had a laser writing hard disc back in 1991, if you were willing to pay $17,000 and if you had a huge amount of space to put it in. Now they are inexpensive and most high end home computers have them.

Should we wait until LEDs can be made to fit current light bulb receptacles? Or should we just wait until modern homes are built around LED style lights and existing homes are modified.

Or should we just pass a law and screw landlords and home owners and force them to pay for the necessary changes. Or maybe we can offer a tax credit.
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