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These fluorescent bulbs are dying more quickly then the incandescent bulbs. I'm not a big fan.
Fluorescent bulbs:
1. cost more, and burn out even quicker in some cases
2. for each burned out bulb I have to create more CO2 to drive my car to buy a new bulb
3. I have to drive my car to drop off the dead fluorescent bulbs, which burns more gas and creates more CO2
4. The trucks who deliver the bulbs to the store i buy them from has to make more trips
5. The truck that picks up the old mercury infected bulbs also burns more gas
6. Not to mention the damage to the environment that is being done in order to obtain all the components required to make fluorescent bulbs in the first place.
But hey, it makes the tree huggers feel just as giddy and useful as they did when they mandated that MTBE be used in gasoline. Freaking idiots!
I guess every well stocked home bunker should have camo curtains, half ton of ammo and a couple cases of black market 100W bulbs next to the spam and top ramen.
Thats another thing... I'm pretty environmentally conscious and while I might not be a tree hugger, I don't want to pee in the well either. We are trading energy efficiency (to save on CO2 pollution) for a different horrible pollutant and to me that isn't much of a step in the right direction. As someone else pointed out, that "bluish" light bugs the heck out of me and while I might even tolerate that, I can't use a dimmer on the darn things. Seriously, its a polished pile of poo but its still poo
I think of a place like Los Angeles, on the day we all have electric cars and these fluorescent bulbs.
How many millions of bulbs each year will that be that may end up going into the landfills, with 1 gram of mercury each. I'm thinking a few hundred thousand grams a year, if not more.
The same goes for car batteries. If every car has 600-900 pounds of batteries, and if the batteries last about 5 years before they need replacing, how many millions of tons of batteries will that be ending up either in the landfills or being trucked to and from the recycle centers?
It will not just be electric car batteries that are in need of new batteries due of end of service life. It will also be all the car dealerships who will be discarding older batteries and installing new ones, in order to sell used cars. No one wants to pay good money for a car, only to have to change the batteries in a year or two.
I think of a place like Los Angeles, on the day we all have electric cars and these fluorescent bulbs.
How many millions of bulbs each year will that be that may end up going into the landfills, with 1 gram of mercury each. I'm thinking a few hundred thousand grams a year, if not more.
The same goes for car batteries. If every car has 600-900 pounds of batteries, and if the batteries last about 5 years before they need replacing, how many millions of tons of batteries will that be ending up either in the landfills or being trucked to and from the recycle centers?
It will not just be electric car batteries that are in need of new batteries due of end of service life. It will also be all the car dealerships who will be discarding older batteries and installing new ones, in order to sell used cars. No one wants to pay good money for a car, only to have to change the batteries in a year or two.
We could always load up all the burned out bulbs and batteries and ship it all back to China where it came from.
I'm in the technology end of the entertainment and political/corporate events, business. Industrial use LEDs are quite powerful with varied uses and applications in the industry. You can filter LEDS to give you any color light you want. I also wonder why the technology hasn't crossed over to commercial/consumer usage.
Many jobs have moved, and many more jobs will inevitably move from every corner of the globe to China or elsewhere anyway, with or without legislation. Free market > government.
Many jobs have moved, and many more jobs will inevitably move from every corner of the globe to China or elsewhere anyway, with or without legislation. Free market > government.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. When I was talking consumer use I meant for household usage. Replacing all standard light bulbs with LEDs if the technology were there would go a long way in curbing American's home energy consumption. I question why the major American manufacturers have lagged in this technology. Frankly, if a comparible LED were available at the same price and performance as incadescent bulbs I'd replace mine in a new york minute. Even if they were made in China.
My eyes can't stand fluorescent lighting. LED's are worse. Fine for flashlights and such but, I couldn't read by one. My favorite electric lights are carbon filament bulbs (not bright but a soft light).
But I'll just continue using gas, oil and kerosene lamps.
The revised Senate bill passed 86-8 on December 13. The House approved this final version 314-100 on December 18, and President Bush signed it the following day.
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When I was talking consumer use I meant for household usage. Replacing all standard light bulbs with LEDs if the technology were there would go a long way in curbing American's home energy consumption. I question why the major American manufacturers have lagged in this technology. Frankly, if a comparible LED were available at the same price and performance as incadescent bulbs I'd replace mine in a new york minute. Even if they were made in China.
