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Old 10-12-2010, 07:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why does Obamas foreign policy, mirror GW. Bush?
Where is the change there?
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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It doesn't mirror it at all. Bush was strongly disliked worldwide while Obama is respected.
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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It doesn't mirror it at all. Bush was strongly disliked worldwide while Obama is respected.
likability is not policy,



bush was a bumbling idiot...obama is a slick liar


bush1, clinton, bush2, obama....all the same
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Old 10-12-2010, 07:59 AM
 
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It doesn't mirror it at all. Bush was strongly disliked worldwide while Obama is respected.




If you say so.

Oh how times have changed, since all the bowing happened!




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A difficult war, runaway federal spending, a dilemma over illegal immigration and even the aftermath of an environmental disaster - President Obama's 2010 is looking a lot like President George W. Bush's 2006.
And in many of those cases, Mr. Obama is turning to similar solutions as his predecessor: a surge of troops overseen by the same commander, Gen. David H. Petraeus; a modified line-item veto proposal; and deployment of National Guard troops to the U.S. (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/united-states-of-america/ - broken link)-Mexico border to soften opposition before a broad push for an immigration bill.
That the challenges are similar is not surprising. By definition, they are the unfinished business of the Bush administration, and in some cases had been languishing for decades longer. But for a man who ran on being the anti-Bush, Mr. Obama is realizing that breaking with a previous administration's policies is easier said than done.
From war woes to Gulf disasters, Obama's presidency mirrors Bush's - Washington Times
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:21 AM
 
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Why does Obamas foreign policy, mirror GW. Bush?
Where is the change there?
I attribute the reason why our foreign policy seems fixed in light of various administrations coming and going at least in part to National Security Council Report 68 (NSC 68) written by Paul Nitze.

The relatively small number of national security and military advisors that have access to the White House have a great deal of influence and some might even say remove much of our foreign policy decisions from the President.

The reason is that these people assess various data collected and of course inflect their personal sentiments which are often born in the military establishment. They hand the President a paper that has three choices on it basically saying, "Mr. President, these are our options" Now the President gets to pick out of the three options that the military establishment has chosen and depending on what they choose our foreign policy follows.

The military establishment isn't entirely like any other committee or group that has power and influence in its sphere of operations and no group, committee, organization or whatever is going to vote itself less authority, less influence and less power.

Since long before the election, I've asserted that Obama didn't have the stones, ability or will to confront the forces in the Pentagon and have resented his escalation in Afghanistan as a political tool to prevent being seen as weak on security as Democrats have traditionally been seen.

When he was a Senator, he often made a point of talking about his objections to our wars in the Middle East and I suspect that he even personally objects to these things. Some may say out of pragmatism that comes with being a Commander and Chief, his views have shifted, but according to recent leaked information such as Bob Woodwards latest book, Obama has been at odds with the Pentagon, yet defers to them still.

We had a decent and rather in depth discussion on this subject some time back and I would recommend watching the Bacevich interview as it was a incredibly informative and enlightening discussion on foreign policy from an ex military man and political philosopher.

The Limits of Power, a critique of US foreign policy and government
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