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The religious nutcase has a case, no pun. However, it's not an issue about religion discrimination, but rather about him not paying the fees to display a sign. I'm tempted to say that you shouldn't have to get a permit to put up a sign on your property. At the same time there has to be some regulations. Some towns have ordinances regarding Christmas lights because some homeowners put so many lights that the neighbors can't sleep at night!!
I read some of the phrases he had posted and they seem to consist of fire and brimstone crap. Why is every religious nutcase fascinated with punishment and the rapture, why don't they ever quote Jesus? You would think a Christian would quote him once in awhile.
Why the need to constantly name call? Cant' you make a point without insulting people?
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The religious nutcase has a case, no pun. However, it's not an issue about religion discrimination, but rather about him not paying the fees to display a sign. I'm tempted to say that you shouldn't have to get a permit to put up a sign on your property. At the same time there has to be some regulations. Some towns have ordinances regarding Christmas lights because some homeowners put so many lights that the neighbors can't sleep at night!!
I read some of the phrases he had posted and they seem to consist of fire and brimstone crap. Why is every religious nutcase fascinated with punishment and the rapture, why don't they ever quote Jesus? You would think a Christian would quote him once in awhile.
Christmas lights are different because they put out light and big displays attract lots of people. That does not mean they should be banned but reasonable regulations- such as requiring the display go dark at 11 PM are OK. This case involves a sign and I do not see any possible way that it can be argued that it creates a nuisance of any kind.
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Well, you have an odd way of showing it; you're always calling names to those who are Christians. What kind of a Christian calls other Christians "religious nut jobs?"
Lots of Christians are religious nutcases. I am not. Not only can I live in a secular society, I LIKE living in a secular society. I do not wish to impose Old Testament law on other people.
Lots of Christians are religious nutcases. I am not. Not only can I live in a secular society, I LIKE living in a secular society. I do not wish to impose Old Testament law on other people.
How convenient that you decide who is and who isn't? What about "secular fundamentalist nutcases?"
Chielgirl seems to be confused about the difference between the function and authority of government vs. an HOA.
Hey chiel - pick up a dictionary. Or take a class. Or something... Your comparison is totally invalid and demonstrates your complete lack of understanding of the Constitution and what it guarantees. I'd be embarrassed to take the position you're taking here. Heck, even the other lefties are against you - you're completely alone on this.
This person will win their suit and the local law will be invalidated.
No need to tell me what I think, or to translate my thoughts.
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Well, you have an odd way of showing it; you're always calling names to those who are Christians. What kind of a Christian calls other Christians "religious nut jobs?"
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How convenient that you decide who is and who isn't? What about "secular fundamentalist nutcases?"
And the difference between what you accuse Kev of and what you've just done is what?
Christmas lights are different because they put out light and big displays attract lots of people. That does not mean they should be banned but reasonable regulations- such as requiring the display go dark at 11 PM are OK. This case involves a sign and I do not see any possible way that it can be argued that it creates a nuisance of any kind.
I didn't say the sign was a nuisance, I said that it's possible that some signs may be a nuisance. Perhaps that is the reason why the town requires a permit. I don't know, just playing devils advocate. Would you be ok if your next door neighbor had a 20 foot tall sign that you found distasteful? What if the sign had an arrow pointing to your home that said "I think this guy is an @sshole" Just saying. I do see the other side however that requiring permits for signs may be an infringement on 1st amendment. Two sides to the story.
From the article: Oscar Moultrie says a Berkeley County, S.C., ordinance that requires residents to obtain government permission before putting up signs on their private property -- other than "for sale," "for rent," political signs, and a few other exceptions -- violates his First Amendment right to freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
Moultrie says he received no complaints about his signs before the county ordered him in March to remove them or pay $25 to get a permit to post them.
So, he chose to sue (just the filing fee will cost more than the $25 for the permit)...
Looks like the guy chooses to break the law, once instructed about how to get a permit refused to do so.
Nothing to see here.
A municipality should not be charging a person to exercise there rights $25,, or $.5.
Remember that this freedom of speech is a two way street and doesn't just apply to whom we agree.
Well, you have an odd way of showing it; you're always calling names to those who are Christians. What kind of a Christian calls other Christians "religious nut jobs?"
Only liberal Christians, aka closet Christians, do. They are embarrassed because there's a very large section of the American Christian community that chose to embrace God and the Bible more than the "world". This is why you can't be liberal (notice, liberals are more "worldly" than their more simple, conservative counterparts) and Christian at the same time, when the Bible clearly says that you should not be ashamed of your faith and hide behind worldly desires and people.
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Lots of Christians are religious nutcases. I am not. Not only can I live in a secular society, I LIKE living in a secular society. I do not wish to impose Old Testament law on other people.
As a Christian, hope you knew that there's also a NEW Testament to the Bible?
Why the need to constantly name call? Cant' you make a point without insulting people?
Excuse me, can you repeat that
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They guy is a lying moron who's answer to everything is government, government, government. He gets owned in every debate and thinks that suing businesses creates jobs.
A municipality should not be charging a person to exercise there rights $25,, or $.5.
Remember that this freedom of speech is a two way street and doesn't just apply to whom we agree.
I have no clue why you've included your second sentence.
I have this thing about following the law and, if I don't like it, working to change it.
Please don't assume or read into what I say based on your filters.
I would assume that the laws were voted on by the citizenry. How long has the law been in effect? Have people complained? Has it affected the sales of houses in the neighborhood?
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As a Christian, hope you knew that there's also a NEW Testament to the Bible?
And I think it addresses caring for and embracing the poor, the disenfranchised... how's that working out for most christers?
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What about "secular fundamentalist nutcases?"
