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Old 10-14-2010, 10:27 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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That greatly depends on the adult though, I'd put my 2 year old up against certain adult members around here any day.

I stand corrected.............
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:39 PM
 
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What will be different and why? How will it cost less?
It will be a lot cheaper.

The Republican health is basically this:

If you have a pre-existing condition **** you!

If you reach the lifetime limit on your policy **** you!

Lose your job and have no health insurance **** you!

Facing bankruptacy due to medical expenses **** you!
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:46 PM
 
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Do you think Obamacare will lower costs? I doubt that.
But you don't KNOW that. People are trying to shoot down this plan before it's even implemented.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:51 PM
 
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You need to do three major things....

1. Open up health insurance so people can shop around, competition drives costs down. We now have a monopoly created by the government, they need to get out of the way.

2. Reduce administrative costs, this accounts for something like 25% of all medical costs, it's an enormous expense. How you go about that specifically I don't know and many of things that would reduce it like a national database of everyone's records isn't going to go over very well.

3. Tort reform.
Those health insurance executives are entitled to charge high premiums so they can get those multi-million dollar salaries, bonuses and stock options. Lower health care cost be damned. This is America, it's about PROFITS.
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:52 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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But you don't KNOW that. People are trying to shoot down this plan before it's even implemented.

But the CBO does..................


CBO ups health care cost projections - Jennifer Haberkorn - POLITICO.com

"Congressional Budget Office estimates released Tuesday predict the health care overhaul will likely cost about $115 billion more in discretionary spending over ten years than the original cost projections.

The additional spending — if approved over the years by Congress — would bring the total estimated cost of the overhaul to over $1 trillion."
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Old 10-14-2010, 10:57 PM
 
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Under republicans, insurance corporations will benefit and the common people will suffer. Doctors will lose all say in patient care. Nothing is new.

The only way to cut costs is to get rid of the middleman. The insurance companies can disappear today and the whole entire healthcare field will be better for it.

The only three ways to do this are:
1) Fee for service - with free market setting the price
2) National healthcare system - paid for by taxes
3) Single payer system - paid for by taxes
BUT THATS SOCIALISM!

The irony is so many people are WILLING to pay MORE for healthcare so they can say the healthcare system is a free-enterprise system.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:00 PM
 
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I'm very much for health care reform that benefits we the people, not them the health care cartel.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:01 PM
 
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If that is the case why did the Democrats not break the monopoly the insurance companies hold when they had the chance? They would have received Republican support for that.
The American peoiple were too damn stupid, and gullible to give the Democrats the support they needed to get REAL health care reform.

The Republican Party has a vested financial interest in supporting the agenda of the drug companies and they have been richly rewarded for their efforts.

People get the government they deserve.
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:05 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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The American peoiple were too damn stupid, and gullible to give the Democrats the support they needed to get REAL health care reform.

The Republican Party has a vested financial interest in supporting the agenda of the drug companies and they have been richly rewarded for their efforts.

People get the government they deserve.

LOL, keep it up. The people are stupid if they don't agree with the Dems....


Please keep this line of reasoning up!
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Old 10-14-2010, 11:07 PM
 
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When liberal Democrats lose we all win.
Speak for yourself!
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