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Because we ALL know by now that when obama said it would lower costs, that was a lie. When he said you can keep your doctor/plan, that was a lie. When he said small business would receive tax credits, that was a lie (for MOST of them).
This is an acknowledgment that they lied and their predictions that the people would love it has failed miserably...again.
There is NO way they can run and hide from what they've done and HOW they did it.
Key White House allies are dramatically shifting their attempts to defend health care legislation, abandoning claims that it will reduce costs and deficit and instead stressing a promise to "improve it."
The confidential presentation, available in full here and provided to POLITICO by a source on the call, suggests that Democrats are acknowledging the failure of their predictions that the health care legislation would grow more popular after its passage, as its benefits became clear and rhetoric cooled.
Instead, the presentation is designed to win over a skeptical public, and to defend the legislation — and in particular the individual mandate — from a push for repeal.
The number of people wanting this monstrosity appealed is growing everyday.
I wonder how those that championed the bill, that were cheerleaders for this administration and the democrats feel now, after ALL the nasty little surprises have come out (they probably don't pay any attention to them).
Do they even know how much they have been duped, lied to, bamboozled and hoodwinked?
Do you think they even care? Or do they continue to repeat the mantra, "yes we did", beyond all logic and reason in the face of the FACTS.
It actually will lower costs compared to doing nothing. The current legislation slows health care costs, but they will still rise more than today because of our aging population. This is a good reason why we need a public option.
It's all good. Uncle Ben will just print us up a fresh few trillion and sell them to investors for 2.6% @ 10 years. Because current bond rates necessarily reflect what they'll be like in the future.
It actually will lower costs compared to doing nothing. The current legislation slows health care costs, but they will still rise more than today because of our aging population. This is a good reason why we need a public option.
Because we ALL know by now that when obama said it would lower costs, that was a lie. When he said you can keep your doctor/plan, that was a lie. When he said small business would receive tax credits, that was a lie (for MOST of them).
1- Small businesses weren't getting ANY credits. In fact, they were at a huge disadvantage when it came to providing benefits. Ideal, of course, would be going full democratic way, none of the middle ground non-sense that Obama compromised with (no public option).
2-Your understanding of economic impact of any policy doesn't go beyond superficial economics that right wing media throws at you. So, I will avoid discussing that.
3- Among the very few tea partiers I've around, one just learned her lesson. She was riding a similar same boat that you're. She just hit the rock sooner than you. She made the same point about "keeping the same doctor" about a month ago. And now that she's been laid off, she has no insurance (unless she opts for the socialistic set up that is COBRA). Did I say she was wary of losing her doctors? At sixty, now she can't wait to get on Medicare.
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Based on current law, Foster says, seniors who rely on Medicare will replace Medicaid recipients at the bottom of the health care ladder as early as 2019, five years after the individual mandate kicks in.
That’s because the $575 billion cut to Medicare over the next decade — which is needed to pay insurance subsidies for 32 million new people — will force one in seven hospitals, nursing homes, home health agencies and hospices out of business, according to the formal Medicare trustees report released on April 22.
By 2050, 40 percent of existing health care facilities will forced to close their doors.
Sanrene, since you're an expert on the subject (or at least your sources claim to be), how about we see the state of health care access in the USA over last, say, 10-12 years? And what the cost projections would have been, if not for the health care reform.
"Obamacare," which happens to be the Republican response to Clinton's failed attempt at reform in 94', actually extends the life of Medicare for an extra 12 years. So without "Obamacare," Medicare would start to fall apart 12 years earlier. That's the right direction, but still doesn't help me sleep much better at night.
The cuts to Medicare under the new law are taken from the old part of Medicare that use to subsidized private insurers to run Medicare programs. That's wasteful and was one of the many areas getting abused under Medicare.
It actually will lower costs compared to doing nothing. The current legislation slows health care costs, but they will still rise more than today because of our aging population. This is a good reason why we need a public option.
Cite please? I've read a hundred analyses, and every one shows premiums increasing dramatically for everyone due to new government mandates, in particular the one that requires mental health to be covered with "full parity" and no limits on coverage (this is over and above the $650 billion in new taxes).
Every hear the very old quote that has been proven true down the times..."youth is wasted on the young!"
When one lives long enough, one can attest to the truth of same.
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