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When Hitler committed suicide, he was the farthest thing from Catholic as one can be.
His spiritual beliefs were along the lines of a cult that believed in a " center of the earth" afterlife as was evident by the way the bodies were positioned before suicide.
Religion affects every single area of my life. I think it's hypocritical to claim a religion, then put it on the shelf every day except Sunday morning.
Of course, it affects whom I vote for. Just like the liberal mindset affects every aspect of a socialist's life.
Your religion affecting your own life is fine. Your religion affecting MY life is not. Your religious beliefs imposed into national law is not fine.
Religion has a definite place in our political structure. I would never say full control but to disenfranchise religious concepts eliminates their voice. As Americans we are allowed to believe what we will and that must go hand in hand with being heard.
The founders commanded that people would not be eliminated from their right to the same liberties as anyone else. This includes Christians and non Christians alike. To promote other wise is against everything that we base freedom on.
I agree that when religion has full control of a society there is a loss of non believers liberties but that is a two way street. To silence their voice is insane communism if not worse.
I would suggest that the OPs position is not rational and more based on hate for religion then for his love of the U.S. of A. He/she should rethink the position of no religion. The post has valid points as turn off the TV if you don't like it but the thought of no religion period eliminates Christians ability to have an alternate option. The same of course goes for people that want full religious control of government
Everyone should have a voice, options and personal beliefs with out elimination
Religion affects every single area of my life. I think it's hypocritical to claim a religion, then put it on the shelf every day except Sunday morning.
Of course, it affects whom I vote for. Just like the liberal mindset affects every aspect of a socialist's life.
The bolded is fine; just don't use YOUR religion to try to affect MY life. And any time a politician is attempting to make laws based on his/her religious belief, then I will be fighting against that politician.
The bolded is fine; just don't use YOUR religion to try to affect MY life. And any time a politician is attempting to make laws based on his/her religious belief, then I will be fighting against that politician.
Then don't use your secular humanist view to affect MY life. And any time a politician is attempting to make laws based on his/her SECULAR HUMANIST belief, then I will be fighting against that politician.
You guys want to have your cake and eat it, too. You're so tolerant...as long as we agree with you.
What did every Communist dictator strive to get rid of in his country?
Religion.
They believed the state should be your God and your salvation.
Difference here is simple. I don't want to "get rid of" religion. I just don't want it used as political fodder. I don't want someone to make a law against something in this country just because their religious beliefs tell them that thing is wrong. If your beliefs tell you something is wrong, fine, don't do it or acquire it or whatever. Because, if my beliefs tell me there is nothing wrong with that action or item, then by making laws against it, you are infringing on my religious freedoms.
Then don't use your secular humanist view to affect MY life. And any time a politician is attempting to make laws based on his/her SECULAR HUMANIST belief, then I will be fighting against that politician.
You guys want to have your cake and eat it, too. You're so tolerant...as long as we agree with you.
Wrong.
Allowing OTHERS a CHOICE on how to live their lives does not affect YOUR life. Why can't you admit that you and many other religious conservatives are actually BEHAVIORIAL SOCIALISTS. Where an "economic" socialist wants government control over the wallet, you want (no, demand), the government to control morality and how people behave. In other words, you really don't care about freedom. You want everyone to be the same, act the same, believe the same. It's "class warfare" redefined. Instead of the destruction of economic division, you want to destroy and subjugate everyone to "the one true way."
Check out the Amish. See how they manage to adhere to their way of life, eschewing technology and electricity.... without similarly demanding that the REST OF US give up electricity because of their PERSONAL beliefs? THAT is what "secular humanism" is... it allows YOU to be YOU, and allows OTHERS to be THEM.
What about Jehova's Witnesses, who don't believe in holidays. It's amazing how they manage to live their lives perfectly fine without demanding that holidays and official recognition of birthdays be "done away with" in the name of their religion. Y'all could learn a lot if you were only curious enough to learn new tricks.
What's hypocritical about a lot of American Christians is that they want to be able to inject THEIR religion into politics and laws, but heaven (no pun intended) forbid another religious minority gain enough power in a locale to impose THEIR religious dogma on the rest of the population.
Maybe Deerborn Michigan should be allowed to sponsor Mosques. Or have the local high school football team pray to Allah before games. Maybe they can mandate that all women wear the burka. After all, religion is so fundamental to them, they should be ALLOWED to impose their religious morals on the rest of the population, right? It's not "freedom FROM religion," right?
Besides, anyone whose moral compass derives directly from "god" is basically admitting that they need fear of divine retribution to keep themselves from doing bad things. That is how we keep three year olds in line (if you don't eat your greens, you get no dessert). You're supposed to mature past that. As if the Bible didn't say, "Thou shalt not kill" (a rip off of Hamurabbi's Code, btw), they would have no reason NOT to kill!
I often wonder were the morals of society come from.
Religion does not belong in politics PERIOD!
You have your right to practice your religion but if your votes are set to control government for religious ideology our country is doomed. We don't need Christians and or Muslims telling us how to live our lives.
I have come to one conclusion people who are generally religious think they are GOD, want the power of GOD and think government is the tool to enforce that authority. Maybe they think God's has told them in the bible and or Koran they must change other people via force (Laws). The bible and Koran etc was written by MAN. GOD has not written a book and if he did write a book God did a ****ty job of getting our story straight.
Government should have no legal say in marriage, no legal say in PERSONAL social decisions unless they are causing harm to other individuals.
If you dont like what is on TV turn it OFF you can't control everyone or create channels for yourself.
stay out of politics stay out of peoples lives religious people are more interested in controling the world around them then anyone else, kill people over it and raise billions of dollars to spread the words of something that groups of people have made their own.
Churches and people who care about others should help others and I believe this to be a human message of free will. Getting government to regulate personal behaviors and or transforming it into a power struggle is not the role of this government.
If you want limit government vote based on limiting yourselves from any religious influence in government.
What you do at home and or in public is your right and no government has that right to remove it just as you have no right to impose it as long as it its not hurting others in the process.
Liberals have no power over your religion if you dont give government the power in the first place.
Excellent post.
Bravo.
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