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Old 10-19-2010, 01:29 PM
 
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Alex Cosgray and his family appear in the lead of MSNBC's piece on Faces of the Tea Party.

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In the story the Cosgray's have the self-righteous temerity to state:

“We bust our backs every day going to work, teaching our children values and working, and that you don’t rely on the government..."

While failing to mention that they have received $2,353 in crop subsidies over the last five years.

Alex Cosgray Subsidy Summary || EWG Farm Subsidy Database
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:34 PM
 
Location: Upstate SC
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Maybe they ought to move to Alaska so they can vote for the similar teabag liar Joe Miller...they'd fit right in.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:36 PM
 
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oh please.. Grasping at straws again? Those crop subsidies are there because the feds put a limit on what he can grow and they manipulate the pricing right? So they pay him the make up money that he is losing right? How is that "relying" on the government? It is a deal that was reached with farmers and the government. Aren't your arms sore from reaching so high all the time?
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: SouthCentral Texas
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So funny, this ol woman was complaining on consevative talk radio that "Liberals" call her a "Tea Bagger"...Nothing like hearing granny bit ch about Tea-baggin.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Originally Posted by ovcatto View Post
Alex Cosgray and his family appear in the lead of MSNBC's piece on Faces of the Tea Party.

Photoblog

In the story the Cosgray's have the self-righteous temerity to state:

“We bust our backs every day going to work, teaching our children values and working, and that you don’t rely on the government..."

While failing to mention that they have received $2,353 in crop subsidies over the last five years.

Alex Cosgray Subsidy Summary || EWG Farm Subsidy Database
What amount of money did that family farm receive in subsidy payments the last year of the 5 you reported? Why is seems that $0 was the amount just as it was in the years 1995 to the first payment.

Have any of you left handers tried to live on $454 per year lately? I just wondered since that family got so much all those years in farm subsidies.

Honestly it appears to me that there must be some much higher paid members of the Tea Party than these people, but maybe they were the only ones who the cheapies could find anything on.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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oh please.. Grasping at straws again? Those crop subsidies are there because the feds put a limit on what he can grow and they manipulate the pricing right? So they pay him the make up money that he is losing right? How is that "relying" on the government? It is a deal that was reached with farmers and the government. Aren't your arms sore from reaching so high all the time?
Grasping at straws seems to be the problem here. Just look at all the money that family got every year they took subsidies. They may become wealthy if they could live enough years with such high payments.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Massachusetts
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Originally Posted by ovcatto View Post
Alex Cosgray and his family appear in the lead of MSNBC's piece on Faces of the Tea Party.

Photoblog

In the story the Cosgray's have the self-righteous temerity to state:

“We bust our backs every day going to work, teaching our children values and working, and that you don’t rely on the government..."

While failing to mention that they have received $2,353 in crop subsidies over the last five years.

Alex Cosgray Subsidy Summary || EWG Farm Subsidy Database

WOW!!!! That's almost 500.00 per year!!!!

Fail
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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oh please.. Grasping at straws again?
No puns intended?

Actually, I'm not grasping as straws or corn for that matter whatsoever.

It doesn't matter one iota why this family applied for, received, and cashed their $2,500 subsidy the fact is they are recipients of the very largesse that the government provides through tax payer dollars that they rail against for others to receive, just like their politician friends who rail against the stimulus but stood first inline to get their share of the spoils.

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Those crop subsidies are there because the feds put a limit on what he can grow and they manipulate the pricing right? So they pay him the make up money that he is losing right?
Ah, wrong. In point of fact there is no limit on corn production, in fact it is quite the opposite. Further, the underlying reason for the increase corn production, establish a minimum floor for corn, AND to shield them from cheaper foreign sources of ethanol!

I would say nice try, but it wasn't by half.

I also hasten to add that the few little 10 minutes that I spent looking up their subsidy levels didn't include other direct and indirect government benefits that they rely on, such as the National Weather Service, research funded by the Department of Agriculture, DOA cooperative and field services, subsidies for their kids education, the roads and infrastructure that waters their crops, or the roads used to carry their crops to market.

When they can forgo all government goods and services then maybe I might entertain the argument that they DON'T depend on the government and have found some way to be completely self-sufficient, which frankly I find absolutely impossible in a modern civilized economy.
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:59 PM
 
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Grasping at straws seems to be the problem here. Just look at all the money that family got every year they took subsidies. They may become wealthy if they could live enough years with such high payments.
I thought the same thing and was going to post the numbers. They are getting less than the average top paid UE check a YEAR! WOW, they are filthy stinking rich living off the Govt. like that!
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Old 10-19-2010, 02:03 PM
 
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No puns intended?

Actually, I'm not grasping as straws or corn for that matter whatsoever.

It doesn't matter one iota why this family applied for, received, and cashed their $2,500 subsidy the fact is they are recipients of the very largesse that the government provides through tax payer dollars that they rail against for others to receive, just like their politician friends who rail against the stimulus but stood first inline to get their share of the spoils.



Ah, wrong. In point of fact there is no limit on corn production, in fact it is quite the opposite. Further, the underlying reason for the increase corn production, establish a minimum floor for corn, AND to shield them from cheaper foreign sources of ethanol!

I would say nice try, but it wasn't by half.
So, all in all, the govt. put restrictions on the farmers in SOME way, like telling them that they have to grow a certain amount of non-edible corn for Ethanol? Is that what you are saying? If so, then the govt. SHOULD be paying them to conform to their wishes. That is how things work, the govt. just can't come in heavy handed and say, you have to grow X amount of this crop and you have to suck up the cost. In America, you pay for other people's services. I know the Progressives want to change that, but that's how it works today.
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