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Old 06-15-2010, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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Why is it that [most] Conservatives believe in the death penalty? I thought the whole point was to stop having people murder other people. Execution and murder are the same thing. If I were a criminal, the thought of dying would probably be better than living in prison for the rest of my life. When a person is executed, they do not feel pain, remorse, etc. for what they have done b/c they are dead. They're families, who are innocent bystanders, are the ones who suffer. Why is that fair?
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:07 PM
 
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Why is it that [most] Conservatives believe in the death penalty? I thought the whole point was to stop having people murder other people. Execution and murder are the same thing. If I were a criminal, the thought of dying would probably be better than living in prison for the rest of my life. When a person is executed, they do not feel pain, remorse, etc. for what they have done b/c they are dead. They're families, who are innocent bystanders, are the ones who suffer. Why is that fair?
Why do we put down animals when they attack?
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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Why is it that [most] Conservatives believe in the death penalty? I thought the whole point was to stop having people murder other people. Execution and murder are the same thing. If I were a criminal, the thought of dying would probably be better than living in prison for the rest of my life. When a person is executed, they do not feel pain, remorse, etc. for what they have done b/c they are dead. They're families, who are innocent bystanders, are the ones who suffer. Why is that fair?
They are into old testament revenge, even if vicariously.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:09 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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execution and murder are most definitely not the same thing.

/fail
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:09 PM
 
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At least they're not on the face of the earth to commit any more of their heinous acts on people. In other words, no repeat offenders!!
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:10 PM
 
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execution and murder are most definitely not the same thing.

/fail
Both can be acts of vengeance, saith I.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:13 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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Why do we put down animals when they attack?
I also disagree with euthanization. However, people have the mental capacity to be rehabilitated; some animals do not. It's also not the animal's fault. The owners are to blame b/c they are the ones who neglected, abused, etc. the animal in the first place.

Yes, people can also have crappy parents, but it doesn't really matter how f'ed up a person is - they can always get on the right track with motivation given to them through school, church, etc. And if not, they should be put in jail, not killed. As with any animal who can not meet proper social standards.

Bottom line, I don't agree with killing anyone or anything. It serves no purpose.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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I also disagree with euthanization. However, people have the mental capacity to be rehabilitated; some animals do not. It's also not the animal's fault. The owners are to blame b/c they are the ones who neglected, abused, etc. the animal in the first place.

Yes, people can also have crappy parents, but it doesn't really matter how f'ed up a person is - they can always get on the right track with motivation given to them through school, church, etc. And if not, they should be put in jail, not killed. As with any animal who can not meet proper social standards.

Bottom line, I don't agree with killing anyone or anything. It serves no purpose.
I can definitely see your point.
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Heart of Oklahoma
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execution and murder are most definitely not the same thing.

/fail
Execution - The act or an instance of putting to death or being put to death.

Murder - To put an end to; destroy

You don't see similarities? I'd like to hear your logic, uggabugga
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:18 PM
 
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Why is it that [most] Conservatives believe in the death penalty? I thought the whole point was to stop having people murder other people. Execution and murder are the same thing. If I were a criminal, the thought of dying would probably be better than living in prison for the rest of my life. When a person is executed, they do not feel pain, remorse, etc. for what they have done b/c they are dead. They're families, who are innocent bystanders, are the ones who suffer. Why is that fair?
At the point you said:Execution and murder are the same thing....

I realized you are not someone who can be reasoned with.

a false premise cannot be the basis for a discussion.
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