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It really shows their desperation by the "free-market" cheerleaders how much they have increasingly have to defend capitalism as its popularity is taking a huge nose dive, while leftist economics is enjoying a huge surge in interest now...
Yes. That is why all polls for the upcoming election show that candidates talking about free market solutions are way ahead of candidates pushing more government.
That is why there have been millions of Americans showing up at Town Hall meetings and Tea Party events. Because leftist economics is so popular. LOLS.
Yawn. I never once said I was for child labor. Not once.
But you didn't offer any solution to possible child labour that could occur in your system. Or human trafficking in general.
What about orphans that cannot pay for private security? In your world people pay for defense.
What if these children won't find people that want to adopt them?
Where do these children go?
They must work in your system to provide for themselves.
.... leftist economics is enjoying a huge surge in interest now...
Huh? Is that why all indications are pointing to a conservative romp in the November elections?
The logical extension of leftist economics is equality: everybody eats tree bark and grass. 60% of us are about ready to say "no, thanks" to that at the balot box.
But you didn't offer any solution to possible child labour that could occur in your system. Or human trafficking in general.
What about orphans that cannot pay for private security? In your world people pay for defense.
What if these children won't find people that want to adopt them?
Where do these children go?
They must work in your system to provide for themselves.
Please tell me what any of this has to do with my original post?
If you want to discuss this then you should start your own thread.
I never once said child labor or human traffiking was acceptable.
I never said anything about child labor or human traffiking at all.
Only person on here talking about child labor was the guy in post #93. Child slvae labor and human traffiking have nothing to do with capitalism. Or socialism for that matter.
You are right and wrong. I should have used the neighbor kid and included competition in my example. My bad. I'll do better next time.
I wouldn't pay a kid .50 cents to do a job I thought was worth $20. If a kid said he would do a job that cheap then I am assuming it is going to be ****ty work. I'd rather pay more money and not have to worry about it. If I pay him .50 then I just have to tun around and pay someone else to fix his mess.
If people only were willing to pay the cheapest price for labor and goods then Mercedes and BMW wouldn't be in business. Neither would Target for that matter.
In a capitalist world company owners want to maximize their profits. So they are going to reduce their costs, including labour costs, as much as they can. That also means shifting their production to countries with cheap labour.
Which CEO in their right mind would prefer to hire someone that works for 30$/h to someone that does the job for 10$/h and just as good?
Who takes care of the disabled or the elderly that don't have family and don't have money to pay for care?
Also, its still unclear how the judiciary is paid for. Or if that even exists in your system.
Please tell me what any of this has to do with my original post?
If you want to discuss this then you should start your own thread.
I never once said child labor or human traffiking was acceptable.
I never said anything about child labor or human traffiking at all.
Only person on here talking about child labor was the guy in post #93. Child slvae labor and human traffiking have nothing to do with capitalism. Or socialism for that matter.
You made several posts after your original post to further explain how that system is going to work. I also addressed your original post like many others. We are still on topic. Its about the system you have presented during the course of this thread.
I asked you how children are protected in your capitalist society.
E.g. in a social democracy that we have in Germany, orphans are being taken care of children's homes which are part of the social security. Social security is paid by the tax payers.
Since your system has no taxes, and orphans have no money to pay for private care, who is going to take care of them?
Not every child is going to be adopted.
You dodge the question and then scream we are off-topic which we are not. We are just showing you the flaws in your naive, oversimplified scenario.
In a capitalist world company owners want to maximize their profits. So they are going to reduce their costs, including labour costs, as much as they can. That also means shifting their production to countries with cheap labour.
Which CEO in their right mind would prefer to hire someone that works for 30$/h to someone that does the job for 10$/h and just as good?
Who takes care of the disabled or the elderly that don't have family and don't have money to pay for care?
Also, its still unclear how the judiciary is paid for. Or if that even exists in your system.
The entire point of this thread is to show how money flows to the laborer better and more efficiently in a capatilistic society than in a govt controlled one. That's it. I t ahs nothing to do with the judicuiary or anything else. And I already answered those questions anyway.
By the way, I work for a large multi-national manufacturing company. We do billions and billions in sales every year and things are getting better every day.
I guarantee my employer could save a ton of money on labor costs if he shut my plant down and moved it overseas. Instead, they shut plants down overseas and moved them to Ohio. Knowing he will pay us more.
Labor costs are are only about 7 percent of most businesses. And you get what you pay for. Lot's of companies that moved to Mexcio are now wanting to come back. They just need some incentive to do it. Like lower taxes or less regulation.
You made several posts after your original post to further explain how that system is going to work. I also addressed your original post like many others. We are still on topic. Its about the system you have presented during the course of this thread.
I asked you how children are protected in your capitalist society.
E.g. in a social democracy that we have in Germany, orphans are being taken care of children's homes which are part of the social security. Social security is paid by the tax payers.
Since your system has no taxes, and orphans have no money to pay for private care, who is going to take care of them?
Not every child is going to be adopted.
You dodge the question and then scream we are off-topic which we are not. We are just showing you the flaws in your naive, oversimplified scenario.
My scenario is about a kid mowing grass. It is not about orphanages. You are off topic.
My scenario is about a kid mowing grass. It is not about orphanages. You are off topic.
You brought up orphanages slim.
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