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Yes and the idiots that say oh it's only 2 years. Yeah and then what? You give government an inch and they'll take a foot. Before you know it we will all be slaves working 9-5 till we die and they will be sucking us dry.
Let me ask you something?
When the retirement age was established for the first time what was the life expectancy in OZ?
If I remember correctly the life expectancy in France is like 86.7 years? So the French believe that a third of their life should be spent on youth/learning/education, another third working, and the last third enjoying old age and retiring. I agree.
If I remember correctly the life expectancy in France is like 86.7 years? So the French believe that a third of their life should be spent on youth/learning/education, another third working, and the last third enjoying old age and retiring. I agree.
Well I guess it depends on whose dime they do it.
Their own money they saved ? Go for it..retire whenever.
Taxpayer money ? That is a changing number and like it or not may not possible cover the retirement dreams of the people.
That's why it's NEVER a good idea to rely on the government for your needs.
If I remember correctly the life expectancy in France is like 86.7 years? So the French believe that a third of their life should be spent on youth/learning/education, another third working, and the last third enjoying old age and retiring. I agree.
WTF is going on? This should be a top 5 thread on every political board in this country! It should be all over the mainstream yet all we hear is how the fat dad from Happy Days died. It's not even a breaking news story on yahoo or CNN. I guess whether some homosexual gets to let everyone know how gay he or she is in the military is more important
God Bless the French! The original Revolutionairies! They know you give the government in inch they'll take a foot! Clinging on to their way of life and their quality of life.........willing to bring their country to a standstill! Where is that kind of solidarity in the US? Ok let's hear all you poopooers now..........about how socialistic, upsidedown, broke, unproductive France is...................... The Greeks, The French.....yet us apathetic Americans somehow stay glued to our Dancing with the Stars and our face buring in our Iphones. And we wonder why our country can't change course. November 2nd is going to change s@$t! Nothing will change unless we do like the French do and riot in the streets.
P.S. mods if there is already a thread on this subject I didn't see it.
Yes on the rich. Who do you think have been sucking money off the workers...........not just the government but the corporations. When the average CEO nowadays makes 1000 times the average worker something is wrong. Most worker pay doesn't even keep up with inflation in America. Anyone making a billion dollars a year should be taxed at 70%. I don't care if you are Bill Gates no one human being is worth a billion dollars nor do they create a billion dollars worth of value in an economy. Also you get rid of the speculative banks and financial institutions who keep inflating and destroying our money supply. Same thing happens with France. You cut the defense budget in half and bring our troops home. Close the 700+ bases we have in 100+ countries. You seal the southern border until we can get our country back in check. Let Mexico deal with their corruption. You decriminalize all drugs so you take the power away from drug cartels. I could go on and on. Our country (the USA) needs TRILLIONS of dollars invested just to MAINTAIN our infrastructure.....i.e. roads, bridges, etc. Yet we are building or have built a billion dollar record size embassy in Iraq! Yes something is very wrong with America..........very wrong! The politicians and the corporatists DONT CARE ABOUT AMERICA! They care about their pocket book............being American doesnt mean anything anymore. At least the French know what it means to be French. Let the employers pay for everything...........and if the French economy fails they can go back to eating cheese and drinking wine !
Well I guess it depends on whose dime they do it.
Their own money they saved ? Go for it..retire whenever.
Taxpayer money ? That is a changing number and like it or not may not possible cover the retirement dreams of the people.
That's why it's NEVER a good idea to rely on the government for your needs.
So then who the hell are we supposed to rely on when the corporations don't provide s@it ? My grandfather worked for Monsant () and retired at 55 with not only a FULL pension but also $50K in a health spending account. So are you going to sit there and tell me that America was wealthier back then compared to now? That's my entire point. The average worker nowadays is 1000 times more productive than he was back then. Yet what does the average worker have to show for it? The corporations and the rich have been sucking the workers in America dry and making them work for a measly 401K. So if the government is not going take back what's rightfully ours from the corporation who's going to do it? You? Me? I guess we should just put all our faith in the market to provide for our retirement when it is the same pigs and tyrants running that racket who are running the corporate racket? Please.......this entire game is about redistribution of wealth. The rich and the corporations with the help of government have been sucking us dry........it's time to make them bleed and suck the corporations dry. If it wasn't for cheap third world labor in China and India America wouldn't even have capitalism. It's kind of ironic that our entire premise of a free market relies on corporations exploiting some Chinese worker under a communist government working for what we would think of as slave labor. haha........yeah right.....our economy is a house of cards and ever since we left our farms and agrarian society always has been. And the only people it's benefitted is the rich and powerful. And in America the rich and powerful make up our government.
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It's not even a breaking news story on yahoo or CNN. I guess whether some homosexual gets to let everyone know how gay he or she is in the military is more important 
The Greeks, The French.....yet us apathetic Americans somehow stay glued to our Dancing with the Stars and our face buring in our Iphones. And we wonder why our country can't change course. November 2nd is going to change s@$t! Nothing will change unless we do like the French do and riot in the streets. 
) and retired at 55 with not only a FULL pension but also $50K in a health spending account. So are you going to sit there and tell me that America was wealthier back then compared to now? That's my entire point. The average worker nowadays is 1000 times more productive than he was back then. Yet what does the average worker have to show for it? The corporations and the rich have been sucking the workers in America dry and making them work for a measly 401K. So if the government is not going take back what's rightfully ours from the corporation who's going to do it? You? Me? I guess we should just put all our faith in the market to provide for our retirement when it is the same pigs and tyrants running that racket who are running the corporate racket? Please.......this entire game is about redistribution of wealth. The rich and the corporations with the help of government have been sucking us dry........it's time to make them bleed and suck the corporations dry. If it wasn't for cheap third world labor in China and India America wouldn't even have capitalism. It's kind of ironic that our entire premise of a free market relies on corporations exploiting some Chinese worker under a communist government working for what we would think of as slave labor. haha........yeah right.....our economy is a house of cards and ever since we left our farms and agrarian society always has been. And the only people it's benefitted is the rich and powerful. And in America the rich and powerful make up our government.
