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Old 10-20-2010, 07:33 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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And why are the tax cuts going to expire for people making less than $250,000? Because the REPUBLICANS WON'T ALLOW THE LEGISLATION TO MOVE FORWARD.

The only smoke and mirrors here are obstructionist Republicans in Congress.
Cry me a river. Good grief already.

For most of his first year in office 0bama had a filibuster proof, super majority in both houses of congress, and even after that he had a 59 democrat majority in the senate, and still had a super majority in the congress. That is a freaking wet dream for a president.... but not for democrats!

Break out the violins, 0bama only has a 59 seat democratic party senate majority, and a super majority in the congress, OMG, what a rip off, damn those minuscule republicans minorities.

Is this your first rodeo? Did you just wake up, politically, in 2009?

Do a little homework, and tell us all when the last time a president had filibuster proof majorities like 0bama had. Then let us know what they did with their super majority, and what the economy and jobs looked like afterward.
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXGhvoekY44
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Old 10-20-2010, 08:15 PM
 
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Tax cuts will accumulate over the next 10 years... Unless the Republicans block it so they can propose a bill giving the rich more tax cuts while increase taxes for the middle class...
Which tax cuts, the $320B in cuts by Obama, or the $672B in INCREASES by Obama..

I know your math challenged but even you should be able to figure this out.

$320B in cuts + $672B in increases = How big of a cut? I know.. you can do the math.. Come on.. Thats right.. $352B INCREASE.. The largest tax INCREASE in HISTORY!!! And since you want to calculate it over 10 years.

Obama has raised taxes $3.52 TRILLION DOLLARS.. and he's only been in office TWO FRICKEN YEARS..
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George Bush Jr. spend EIGHT years jacking up the deficit.

But that was O.K. with you!
BZZZZ Thanks for playing but you got the answer wrong.. Bush's 2007 deficits were $250 BILLION.. 20% of what they are NOW.. Blame Democrats for the other 80%!
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Only for the wealthy.
Wrong
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Everybody pays taxes.
And wrong.. The wealthy pass those tax increases onto the consumer, meaning YOU will be responsible to help pay that $3.52T tax increase.. Yes, thats TRILLION. Enjoy.. Let me know how it works out for you...
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:15 PM
 
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People seem to forget that Obama signed into law the largest tax cut in the history of the United States.
The Republicans wanted the tax cut for the wealthy... They can't have the middle class saving money...
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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The Republicans wanted the tax cut for the wealthy... They can't have the middle class saving money...
Oh but the middle class IS saving money and they ARE paying down debt.
TPTB don't like that because it's the middle class "buying stuff" whether they have the money or not that drives the economy.

Entice the masses to take out loans. The rich don't need loans you see.
A home and CC and student loan and car loan for everyone in America should be the mantra of the Dems.

DEBT is a 4 letter word.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:21 PM
 
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Oh but the middle class IS saving money and they ARE paying down debt.
TPTB don't like that because it's the middle class "buying stuff" whether they have the money or not that drives the economy.

Entice the masses to take out loans. The rich don't need loans you see.
A home and CC and student loan and car loan for everyone in America should be the mantra of the Dems.

DEBT is a 4 letter word.
If salaries have been flat for the past 10 years... The rich want the middle class to live off of loans...
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If salaries have been flat for the past 10 years... The rich want the middle class to live off of loans...
Because the government posted little to no inflation..remember ?
COLA is used by private employers as well in an indirect way.

Just too many don't realize that the government removes energy/food when calculating inflation.

Real inflation was running over 10%.
Alternate Inflation Charts
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Old 10-22-2010, 07:33 PM
 
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Cry me a river. Good grief already.

For most of his first year in office 0bama had a filibuster proof, super majority in both houses of congress, and even after that he had a 59 democrat majority in the senate, and still had a super majority in the congress. That is a freaking wet dream for a president.... but not for democrats!

Break out the violins, 0bama only has a 59 seat democratic party senate majority, and a super majority in the congress, OMG, what a rip off, damn those minuscule republicans minorities.

Is this your first rodeo? Did you just wake up, politically, in 2009?

Do a little homework, and tell us all when the last time a president had filibuster proof majorities like 0bama had. Then let us know what they did with their super majority, and what the economy and jobs looked like afterward.

Great points. Wish I could rep you more.

Obama has shown many things that are quite interesting

1. With fillibuster proof absolute power, the dems used that power to increase unemployment, increase the debt and the deficits. If they did this poorly with absolute power, why ever elect them again? The majorities in the senate and congress will never happen again and that "opportunity" was completely wasted.

2. The dems, with absolute power, took no responsibility for any of thier actions and blamed a weak minority party and the preceeding presidents for all thier problems. Would they ever take responsibility for anything in the future?

3. The dems, with their absolute majorities, chose to OPPOSE THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE with regard to spending, healthcare, and immigration. If they are in power again, will they so ardently oppose the will of the people again? Why elect people who oppose the people?
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Old 10-23-2010, 12:12 AM
 
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You have to wonder at today's apologist left. Absolutely no honesty or integrity left. Sad really. Unions and african-americans are all that's left to prop up the fool on the hill.
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Old 10-23-2010, 06:14 AM
 
Location: Indiana
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And why are the tax cuts going to expire for people making less than $250,000? Because the REPUBLICANS WON'T ALLOW THE LEGISLATION TO MOVE FORWARD.

The only smoke and mirrors here are obstructionist Republicans in Congress.
republicans are outnumbered Obama care was pass without republicans.republicans can not disallow or allow anything this is all on the democrats!!
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