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Old 10-20-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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It so sad so many can't tell the difference between speaking about an idea vs. quoting a document. Or perhaps there's just been no rallying points from Beck/Limbore lately?
Its sad you are trying that excuse
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:03 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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That's an impeachable offense as far as i'm concerned. It's one thing if you don't want to believe in the Creator, but its an entirely different issue if you're the President of the United States and you decide you want to cut and crop our Founding Documents to fit your political maneuvering.

This guy has no shame. America is finally figuring this out.
Speaking of having no shame the hypocrisy of the right knows no bounds. A group that has near deified a POTUS who sold weapons to an enemy while peeing & moaning about this NON-ISSUE and declaring it "an impeachable offense"

No shame indeed .................................................. .......
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:04 AM
 
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This is so sad at how many people are making excuses for the changing of such an important document.
I missed the part where he re-wrote it.

Either way, as important as the document is, the REASON it is important is somehow lost on you and yours.

The Declaration of Independence isn't sacred and important because it declares that a CREATOR endows us with rights. It's important because it notes and acknowledges that we HAVE these rights in the first place... Where we get them from isn't terribly relevent to the document and most CERTAINLY wasn't that important to the founding fathers...
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:04 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Its sad you are trying that excuse
Have a problem with the truth do ya?



I guess you do. After all, you've alleged a document has been changed when in truth it HAS NOT.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:10 AM
 
Location: NE CT
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IF he'd prefaced his remarks "In the words of Thomas Jefferson" you might have a point, as it is, you don't.
BO is quoting a document, signed by many many people. He doesn't have to say "in the words of Jefferson" because although TJ wrote it, every signor, agreed with the document and supported it. BO is citing the document therefore he is wrong to misquote it.


If one quotes the 2nd amenedment and leaves out the word "free" then it changes the entire meaning if the amendment. One doesn't have to say before hand "the Constitution as written by Madison, et all". We know where the quote is coming from.. Besides, Obama does cite the words as their origin in the DOI...

I think you are on thin ice here trying to make the argument he has to cite TJ when he cites the document, and then cites it incorrectly.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:11 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Have a problem with the truth do ya?



I guess you do. After all, you've alleged a document has been changed when in truth it HAS NOT.
When you are quoting a document and dont quote it correctly you are changing the words of that document and it is rather sad that I need to explain this.

If I take your quote and take out parts of it does that change your quote?
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:13 AM
 
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When you are quoting a document and dont quote it correctly you are changing the words of that document and it is rather sad that I need to explain this.
Then I suggest that when talking about religion, you shouldn't say anything that's not a direct quote from whichever "holy" book you choose to follow.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:15 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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I missed the part where he re-wrote it.

Either way, as important as the document is, the REASON it is important is somehow lost on you and yours.

The Declaration of Independence isn't sacred and important because it declares that a CREATOR endows us with rights. It's important because it notes and acknowledges that we HAVE these rights in the first place... Where we get them from isn't terribly relevent to the document and most CERTAINLY wasn't that important to the founding fathers...
He will forever go down in history as quoting the document like he has. That is rewriting it in history. Since he is president and all

I dont think the document is important to you at all. Since you are on this board making excuses for it not being quotes correctly.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:16 AM
 
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Even you know better than what you just wrote!
That is exactly what it means. I'm sorry that you don't know that.
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Old 10-20-2010, 11:18 AM
 
Location: South Fla
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Then I suggest that when talking about religion, you shouldn't say anything that's not a direct quote from whichever "holy" book you choose to follow.
Isnt that the point of quoting something, to quote it as written?

Also isnt that the point of freedom of religion. That just because you dont agree with it doesnt mean that others cant? Seems some want the freedom to not be religious but dont respect others freedom of being religious.
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