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Old 10-22-2010, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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"The countries that stimulated hardest, like South Korea, came out of recession first."

Look what good the U.S. stimulus has done for the U.S.
Probably the author of that article has no idea how large our stimulus, that turned out to be pork for good buddies, was. I don't know about South Korea's stimulus but haven't seen anybody else who had one as large as ours was.
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:13 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Follow what is happening in the UK right now.. Thatcher reborn - massive hatchet slashing of government spending, welfare cuts, corporate tax allowances etc etc all that you want. Lets just wait and watch the consequences...

Johann Hari: A colder, crueller country – for no gain - Johann Hari, Commentators - The Independent
Interestingly, even Cameron is to the left of almost everyone in both parties in America. The UK has national health care and everyone wants to keep it. The current government wants to means-test benefits like child credits. That would be called "class warfare" here.

I vote solidly Dem here but would probably support the Conservatives in the UK.
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I DO dread, even fear the thought of the REPUBLICANS GETTING BACK in OFFICE because there is no doubt in my mind that they will finish the destruction of our beloved country. If it happened SO MANY TIMES before in our history, IT WILL happen again because the REPUBLICANS have no plans as to how to bring this country back to the comfortable state it was in in the '90s when the DEMOCRATS was in; that IS before the REPUBLICANS came with their wrecking crew in 2000.

All they know is "war," supposely, they believe, to boost the economy, but war didn't boost the economy for George W. BUSH; it took us DOWN to where we are and neither did it do ANYTHING for our economy when his dad GEORGE HW Bush was in office and went to war.

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I think that you really don't know much about our history or how our government operates. For instance, surely you know that the Republicans taking over the Congress will have little effect on the destruction of this nation. Surely you know that TheWon will still be in office with his veto pen in hand and the Republicans can't get enough votes in either house to override a veto. Nope, the messiah can still save us unless he turns on people like you.

As for history, I guess you don't know that the Republicans took over the Congress in 1993 after the election. It wasn't Democrats who caused the great times of the 90s but it was a Democrat President who went nearer the center to go along with the new Congress. Nope, Republicans were in control most of the 90s with a Dem President and things improved.

Speaking of wars and the economy, is there a chance that FDR did very little to improve out economy other than getting into WW II? How about the Korean War, that Truman got us in before the UN ordered him to do so? It was Eisenhower, a Republican, who first sent unarmed advisors to Vietnam but it was another Dem, JFK who made it into a war with more troops.

How long have you been here to reason as you seem to do? It appears to me that you haven't experienced these things, as I have, and are taking the words of the far left as your sources.
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:40 PM
 
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Its like a drug addict going through withdrawals. Is the answer really to keep snorting and shooting up?
Do you know what drug users do with extra cash? They buy stronger drugs Thats what happens when we give additional tax money to the druggies (i.e. Pelosi, Reid, Obama)
Those consequences usually result in death
Sure, the withdrawal period sucks, but there's no other way out. We must stop wasteful spending, and we must cut gov't down to size.
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Bad medicine, giving the comatose patient a sedative. Unless the UK's economy is getting too strong. People in the U.S. are not looking for a free ride, they are quite willing to work hard. Even those with the "I got mine" attitude have to realize they could lose it too if misguided austerity measures hit the U.S.
"Misguided austerity measures"? Are you really in favor of more stimulus like the last attempt that hasn't stimulated one thing?

People in the US have not had the same amount of government goodies that the people of Europe have had up to now so, yes they will work their way out of this but we have to stop those who would make us more dependent on the government before they get caught up to Europe.

I know the effort is being made but it can be stopped before it goes too far.
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:50 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Its like a drug addict going through withdrawals. Is the answer really to keep snorting and shooting up?
Do you know what drug users do with extra cash? They buy stronger drugs Thats what happens when we give additional tax money to the druggies (i.e. Pelosi, Reid, Obama)
Those consequences usually result in death
Sure, the withdrawal period sucks, but there's no other way out. We must stop wasteful spending, and we must cut gov't down to size.
The wasteful spending you refer to is aimed at growing the dependency on the government of more and more people. Someone in control knows what the results of this crap will be and we all know who that someone is
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Old 10-22-2010, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Follow what is happening in the UK right now.. Thatcher reborn - massive hatchet slashing of government spending, welfare cuts, corporate tax allowances etc etc all that you want. Lets just wait and watch the consequences...

Johann Hari: A colder, crueller country – for no gain - Johann Hari, Commentators - The Independent
You are just seeing the chaos planned by the One World Order people being carried out. They want the chaos. We're next. Just remember you wealth redistributors, when it comes to the world your $40,000 income makes you a rich guy.
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Old 10-22-2010, 01:07 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Follow what is happening in the UK right now.. Thatcher reborn - massive hatchet slashing of government spending, welfare cuts, corporate tax allowances etc etc all that you want. Lets just wait and watch the consequences...

Johann Hari: A colder, crueller country – for no gain - Johann Hari, Commentators - The Independent
I wonder if your story will get through to any Democrats in this nation. I am saying that the bigger the government gets the worse it will hurt when the cuts have to be made, and we have people who believe the bigger it is the better things will be in control now. The more people our government piles on itself the worse the pain will be when they realize they have to cut.

Also, you might look at the fact that the UK has had national health care since the 1940s and that has caused much of the problem. Here we are just getting started with that stuff so we can make the cuts a bit easier than in the UK.

However, we still have our printing presses in DC running and can keep printing dollars until they get completely worthless.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:14 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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As for history, I guess you don't know that the Republicans took over the Congress in 1993 after the election.
1995, Mr. American Government teacher.

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It wasn't Democrats who caused the great times of the 90s but it was a Democrat President who went nearer the center to go along with the new Congress. Nope, Republicans were in control most of the 90s with a Dem President and things improved.
Unemployment and the deficit declined every year of the Clinton adminstration, with and without a Republican Congress. You are correct that Clinton governed as a centrist, although almost no Republicans were saying so publicly at the time.
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Old 10-22-2010, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Land of debt and Corruption
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The term austerity is not in the American version of the English Dictionary, unfortunately.
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