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Old 10-23-2010, 09:31 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I didn't take the effort to read all of your long post. But I'm guessing you're trying to prove that Thanksgiving is religious. That quote is from 1789 when the country was getting established. The first Thanksgiving was in 1621 before America was even a country. When George Washington was establishing the country, he might have had religious intentions for Thanksgiving. But the first Thanksgiving was before George Washington was born.
Take the effort to check the dates of these later proclamations...

Thanksgiving Proclamations
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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The topic of the thread ( and the post I was responding to) is not the first Thanksgiving. The topic is the Thanksgiving holiday.
Now you're just nit picking. Every Thanksgiving since 1621 was a holiday. This thread is about Thanksgiving in general.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:35 PM
 
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no that is not how it started and i was hoping it this wouldnt come up to create more arguments, but thankfully we dont celebrate thanksgiving for its roots we have taken thanksgiving to another level being thankful for what we have and our families.

The Real Thanksgiving
Ya think George Washington was whitewashing the truth?
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:38 PM
 
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I completed my K-12 schooling in Massachusetts. I took a field trip to Plimoth Plantation. I know what I'm talking about.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:39 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Now you're just nit picking. Every Thanksgiving since 1621 was a holiday...
It was? How so? There was no United States for a good 150 years...You are telling me all colonists in all areas of what became the United States celebrated it before there was a country?
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:41 PM
 
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Now we have seen the atheist reasoning for not celebrating Thanksgiving. Of course, you won't be alone here.
Blaming atheists again? What do atheists have to do with whether or not Thanksgiving is celebrated?
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:44 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Take the effort to check the dates of these later proclamations...

Thanksgiving Proclamations
Great link.

I guess all the of the presidents since Lincoln saw no need to mention god in their proclamations of Thanksgiving.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:46 PM
 
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It was? How so? There was no United States for a good 150 years...You are telling me all colonists in all areas of what became the United States celebrated it before there was a country?
Ok, maybe it wasn't officially an American holiday yet. But that doesn't change the fact that they celebrated. I'm not saying everyone in what is now the United States celebrated. But the point is Thanksgiving was around, whether it was an official or unofficial holiday.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:48 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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...But the point is Thanksgiving was around, whether it was an official or unofficial holiday.
I do not disagree.

All I am saying is when it was made an official holiday it was mainly to give thanks to god. All presidents after Washington that have made the proclamation have done so as well.

Does this mean one must believe in god to celebrate it? Certainly not. Does this mean one must celebrate or thank god to have Thanksgiving? Certainly not.
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Old 10-23-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: SW Missouri
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Maybe those old Wampanaws that saved the English that one cold winter deserve at least a nod of gratitude.
I would wager that of the 300,000+ million people in the United States - most of whom celebrate the Thanksgiving Holiday that less than .00000000000000001 of them are being thankful to the Wampanaws. Buy yes, you're right, they do.

20yrsinBranson
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