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Old 10-26-2010, 04:48 AM
 
Location: Earth
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I didn't see this version of my last post on my page, so added on and edited, even better!


Mythology, religion, doesn't matter. Nobody knows all the answers, pro or con concerning a deity. Religion is the glue that holds together a coherent society. The study of anthropology is your friend.
Perhaps in your head.
Religion pulls people apart in what I've seen of the world.
Deluded people are dangerous. There is no proof of any god thing.
Keep that in mind.

In fact, try taking guidance from your own words:
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It would be good practice to provide links when making asinine statements.
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:09 AM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Because extremist Christians have already had their hands on atomic weapons, so it seems normal.

George W. Bush stated that God told him to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. He certainly caused massive death and destruction, albeit with conventional weapons. That's not extreme enough for you?
Really? How incredibly ridiculous can you get with your examples? Do you really think you are making a valid point as opposed to make yourself look silly? Afghanistan's Taliban was in the process of executing people for the littlest of things and destroying cultures all around it AND harboring international terrorist organizations, while Saddam was responsible for the deaths of over 250,000 (through nerve agents, torture, executions, and mass murder). The WORLD should have risen up and put a stop to this. Maybe you also see us as bad guys for all the death and destruction we caused on Europe for waging war on Hitler and invading the continent?
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: PA
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All religions are choices. You are a human being to choose your own way of life.
If you practice a religion you still have the choices to obey it or choose another path. In peace or in blood you choose your own way.
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Old 10-26-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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Really? How incredibly ridiculous can you get with your examples? Do you really think you are making a valid point as opposed to make yourself look silly? Afghanistan's Taliban was in the process of executing people for the littlest of things and destroying cultures all around it AND harboring international terrorist organizations, while Saddam was responsible for the deaths of over 250,000 (through nerve agents, torture, executions, and mass murder).
We killed more people in Vietnam in 8 years than Saddam killed in Iraq and Iran in 24 years. What does that make us?


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The WORLD should have risen up and put a stop to this. Maybe you also see us as bad guys for all the death and destruction we caused on Europe for waging war on Hitler and invading the continent?
We certainly should not have entered WW2, and once having entered it, our policy of burning entire cities off the map does place us in the moral category of Hitler, Tojo and indeed our friends, the mass-raping locusts of the Red Army.

But that's beside the point. If you think the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were so obviously justified, all the more unnecessary (and just plain loopy) it was for GWB to bring God into it.
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Tujunga
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Afghanistan's Taliban was in the process of executing people for the littlest of things and destroying cultures all around it AND harboring international terrorist organizations, while Saddam was responsible for the deaths of over 250,000 (through nerve agents, torture, executions, and mass murder). The WORLD should have risen up and put a stop to this.
Is that really the logic of why states go to war? I mean, do you think that we find the morally worst state and then stop whatever its doing? Because it seems to me that this kind of logic doesn't explain any actual conflicts, so I wonder what the merit of the argument if.

For example, the most oppressive Middle Easter regime is Saudi, and yet America fund it. Zimbabwe's leadership destroyed its own country, putting it top of the 'save the people' list along with N.Korea , and yet we ignore it.

Surly it is clear that wars have nothing to do with morality?
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:31 AM
 
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How arrogant, condescending and rude all in one post.
I don't give a crap about your god; do not offend me by your words of disdain.

Why would I have a funeral? In a church, hardly. I don't believe in a god fantasy creature, so why would I? Cremation is fine, throw me to the birds. I'll be dead, what do I care.

My money happens to be the Euro at the moment so it does not say anything about any sky-daddy on it.

How absolutely offensive you are.


Your anger amuses me
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Old 10-26-2010, 11:38 AM
 
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Without Islam, where would Conservatives get their definition?
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:04 PM
 
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In 'A World Without Islam,' Not Much Would Change : NPR

Check out this article, if you can, read the book.

Its quite good, and details what the world would be like without Islam. Honestly, it wouldn't have changed much. We likely would still have terrorism, and we'd likely have honor killings and other things that people scream about all the time.

The author goes into detail about the reasons for many of the horrid things we've seen from the middle east. In the end, its not about religion, religion has been used as a crutch. The real reason is the oil and other minerals in Islamic countries that has lead to the violence and places in the world receiving prominence because of their natural resources.

Think about it, wouldn't you be upset if the Chinese invaded the United States because they were after one small percentage of the population?

What do y'all think the world would be like without Islam?

(and yes, I know the link is NPR, just to infuriate my conservative brothers )
A world without islam would be like life without cancer, heart disease, viral and bacterial diseases etc., all wrapped into one.

With islam, it is a nevery ending battle of islam v humanity.

Any questions?
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:08 PM
 
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Without Islam, where would Conservatives get their definition?
Their definition of what? Your statement makes no sense except to convey extreme and unjustified hatried for conservatives on your part. Other than that, well, Malarkey comes to mind.
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Old 10-26-2010, 12:12 PM
 
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A world without islam would be like life without cancer, heart disease, viral and bacterial diseases etc., all wrapped into one.

With islam, it is a nevery ending battle of islam v humanity.

Any questions?

Yes. So we still would have had to deal with World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War, the Rwandan genocide, the War in the Congo, drug cartel violence in Colombia and Mexico, the Oklahoma City bombing, and the millions of victims of totalitarian fascism and communism in Germany, Russia, China, and Cambodia---all of which had nothing to do with Islam, right? And that's just the last 100 years.

So it'd kind of be like a world without skin cancer, but still with lung, mouth, throat, stomach, and testicular cancer...Just correcting your analogy.
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