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Old 10-29-2010, 11:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I think about this quite often and always wonder why it's their responsibility to pay for your health care? You work for them, they pay you for that work; they don't pay for your rent/mortgage, car, food or credit cards, so why is it their responsibility to pay for your health care? I honestly don't get it. Thanks

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Employers offer group insurance policies to their employees. The employees pay for that insurance, usually at a reduced rate. Some employers make a contribution to the policies, others don't. And the rate employees pay has climbed steadily in recent years, w/o a compensating improvement in coverage, in many cases.

However, insurance CEOS and executives have awarded themselves record-setting salaries and bonuses.
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:51 AM
 
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I think about this quite often and always wonder why it's their responsibility to pay for your health care? You work for them, they pay you for that work; they don't pay for your rent/mortgage, car, food or credit cards, so why is it their responsibility to pay for your health care? I honestly don't get it. Thanks
Questions: Who pays for your healthcare? Do you work? Have you ever worked?

Here's a link with a quick rundown on healthcare insurance in America.

PBS- Healthcare Crisis: Healthcare Timeline
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Old 10-29-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Up in the air
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Said by someone who probably doesn't have a pre-existing condition. May you never have what I have or something worse and have to find health insurance.

If my employer didn't offer health coverage I would be SOL. It isn't free to me, I pay a part of it, but without it, my medication would be $450/week. Meds I need the rest of my life that allow me to continue working. My disease wasn't caused by anything *I* did, no one knows what actually causes my disease.

I guess I could go off my meds but then I would be on disability paid for by the taxpayers.
Same here. I have a genetic disorder through no fault of my own and my employer is the ONLY way I'll ever get insurance, and conversely, my medication.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:02 PM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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I think about this quite often and always wonder why it's their responsibility to pay for your health care? You work for them, they pay you for that work; they don't pay for your rent/mortgage, car, food or credit cards, so why is it their responsibility to pay for your health care? I honestly don't get it. Thanks
Actually they do pay for your rent, food etc., they just don't do it separately and explicitly. They might as well give you a pay raise of the amount health care costs. The employer benefits from an employee who is not hungry and not ill and not homeless etc.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:18 PM
 
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Huh? Every worker has a skill. That is why they were hired and are kept employeed. If the you are not "producing" value you are fired.
So your saying that all layed offf workers were layed offf because they were not prtoducting value/ Also that all working now do? I highly doubt that really.
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Old 10-29-2010, 12:28 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I think about this quite often and always wonder why it's their responsibility to pay for your health care? You work for them, they pay you for that work; they don't pay for your rent/mortgage, car, food or credit cards, so why is it their responsibility to pay for your health care? I honestly don't get it. Thanks
It is not their responsibility. They do it voluntarily to attract a better class of workers. Companies compete for the best, and they need to offer some incentives for people to work for them, and not for someone else.
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:42 PM
 
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It is not their responsibility. They do it voluntarily to attract a better class of workers. Companies compete for the best, and they need to offer some incentives for people to work for them, and not for someone else.
But it originated when FDR imposed a pay-freeze as a way to compete. It should have reverted back to pay only after the freeze was gone. It did not and now we have this mess of people conditioned not to insure themselves and whine when they lose their job about losing the HC too.
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Old 10-29-2010, 02:13 PM
 
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now we have this mess of people conditioned not to insure themselves and whine when they lose their job about losing the HC too.
And of course, if you were to lose your job and with it went your HC benefits, you'd be happy...right?
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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But asking an employer or a fellow American to contribute to the medical well being of the whole country, and folks are damn near ready to riot. "Why should i pay for so-and-so's health care," they ask? Is this what's it's come to?

I swear...i wake up some days and i don't recognize the place that i was born in 45 years ago. The selfishness and greed is incredible.
Taking money from some people to pay for other people's health care is also "selfishness and greed". It's amazing how easy it is and how comfortable we have become spending other people's money.

And there is nothing stopping you from using your own money to help your neighbors, so go ahead.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:55 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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However, insurance CEOS and executives have awarded themselves record-setting salaries and bonuses.

So, why is that a problem?
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