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Old 10-28-2010, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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The illusion of diversity America loves to live on is mind boggling.
I have seen quite a bit of the US and more than anything, I have met many, many people from ALL OVER the US - and I have seen anything but diversity in essence.
America is more diverse than any of the 20 or 25 countries I have visited.

You should get to other counties and see how little diversity exists in most of them.
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Old 10-28-2010, 04:55 PM
 
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Travel to other countries might provide a wider perspective in the hope to quell the infinite whining and complaining about this nation's alleged ills.
This nation's "alleged" ills are extremely rarely visible or tangible to someone born and raised here; so why would they be visible to you?

There is a reason why many immigrants insist on staying here once they arrive and see that their material status has indeed improved, be it at the cost of their overall humanity, well-being and spiritual satisfaction. (Never mind that the improvement in material status is only on the surface, with lots of debt to show for it; but let's just say they live materially better than they were at home).

Deep down, they know their children will never feel what they feel as they will have been "integrated" (to be read "numbed") from day 1 - and will only get to experience the joys of "material advantages", minus the suffering from spiritual loss. Their children won't experience spiritual loss; just spiritual void - and "void" never hurts.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:01 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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LOL, I wish they would hand this out at our southern boarder....
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:08 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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This nation's "alleged" ills are extremely rarely visible or tangible to someone born and raised here; so why would they be visible to you?

There is a reason why many immigrants insist on staying here once they arrive and see that their material status has indeed improved, be it at the cost of their overall humanity, well-being and spiritual satisfaction. (Never mind that the improvement in material status is only on the surface, with lots of debt to show for it; but let's just say they live materially better than they were at home).

Deep down, they know their children will never feel what they feel as they will have been "integrated" (to be read "numbed") from day 1 - and will only get to experience the joys of "material advantages", minus the suffering from spiritual loss. Their children won't experience spiritual loss; just spiritual void - and "void" never hurts.

And how did you develop this vast insight to the lives of millions of immigrants? Did this happen to you? Is that the source of your anger?
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Sierra Vista, AZ
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An interesting article but a touch harsh.
One point that is noticeable, one sees very few young Americans on holiday in other countries doing the young thing, getting smashed , etc etc etc.
Do young Americans live to work ?

America
Only the rich get to vacation abroad.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Only the rich get to vacation abroad.

Not true at all. Some of my children vacation abroad almost every year and they are nowhere near rich. It's called living within your means and saving for things you really want to do.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:14 PM
 
Location: in my imagination
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Well I just had a chance to read the linked article in full. I think the guy has a chip on his shoulder toward America and is not accurate in many things he said although he made a couple valid points.

America is not a bad place at all, it has a lot of good things about it. But that doesn't mean other places don't also and that someone living somewhere else can't be happy and can't be happy because they aren't a American. I think some Americans need to stop and realize that.

Ever been driving down the road and you passed a back packer walking along the road. He may have looked homeless and grungy and your first thought might have been he is a loser in life or mentally unstable. And that could be true but, what if not? What if he is living the way he wants, under his terms and totally free for himself away from the things that sometimes worry us, bring us down and stress us. Maybe everyday he sees and experiences things in life that pass some of us over because some of us are consumed in stress, deadlines, time, keeping what we got or getting more, and bills. Maybe while some of us are passing on life now for a plan for tomorrow, for a tomorrow that may never happen he is filling a treasure box of life experience right now everyday seeing places in slow motion and meeting people (maybe good people) that most of us wouldn't even bother to say hi to because we are consumed with ourselves.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:19 PM
 
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LOVE Italy! I could get very happy there with enough money.
No kidding.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:20 PM
 
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And how did you develop this vast insight to the lives of millions of immigrants? Did this happen to you? Is that the source of your anger?
By talking to them and observing them.
Fool proof.
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Old 10-28-2010, 05:22 PM
 
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As someone above said: Americans have a huge nation to do that. Go to Yosemite and you'll see dozens of young Americans hiking the backcountry. Go to the California coast and there are thousands of young Americans living the high life surfing, swimming, sunning and enjoying life.
Personally, I live in New England and when I want a tropical experience, I can travel 3.5 hours by plane and be in South Florida or 5 hours and be in Antigua. If i want skiing, snowmobiling I travel to Vermont. If I want rocky coasts with quaint seafaring villages I travel 3 hours by car to Maine.

The point being people who live in tiny nations need to travel outside their borders to experience life. We Americans do not. Especially a nation like Israel which is the size of Delaware.
Australia is not tiny.
In population yes.

Yet we travel alot. Even though it costs a lot to get out of here - even if it takes 20+ hours
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