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Old 10-28-2010, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:19 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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It will be soon if doctors continue to ***** and moan about taking care of Medicare patients!
Can you come up with some really good examples of how medical people get paid for Medicare treatment? I can from my own experience of nearly 13 years of Medicare care. It is not funny, at all, how the bureaucrats in the stae capital treat doctors and remember that to treat Medicare people they have to agree to take what they can get from those bureaucrats.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:22 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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I thought you were for less government spending. Medicare is on track to become totally insolvent by 2017. What is your solution? If doctors don't want to take responsibility for healthcare of our senior citizens, I can guarantee you that nurses are willing!
I know that those who drew up this law expect me to be dead by 2017 but just in case they are wrong I don't want any of the nurses who have worked with my internalist of years doing my endoscopys after he is gone and he is about to retire because of his age. I think I will stick to surgeons of some kind for that kind of invasive checking.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:22 PM
 
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Yes, and social security. Over time of course, people are not prepared yet. If Medicare didn't exist more employers would continue medical benefits into retirement. Additionally, those who couldn't afford to buy insurance could be given a tax credit to purchase insurance in the private market. Increased competition would ultimately lower costs without an unfair impact on providers. As you accurately pointed out Medicare is on the brink of bankruptcy, something has to change. Squeezing providers will not save it.

Your fantasy of nurses taking over for physicians simply will not happen. Eliminating Medicare would happen first.
Ah.........excuse me. Do you remember why Medicare was enacted in the first place? After people retired, they could not get health insurance!

As far as your opinion of Medicare being eliminated before nurses take care of seniors, that is your feeble opinion only!
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:24 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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I know that those who drew up this law expect me to be dead by 2017 but just in case they are wrong I don't want any of the nurses who have worked with my internalist of years doing my endoscopys after he is gone and he is about to retire because of his age. I think I will stick to surgeons of some kind for that kind of invasive checking.

You may not have a choice unless you can pay the difference yourself. Which is what many conservatives want...........government out of their healthcare!
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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You want to get rid of Medicare?

LOL, nurses are ready, willing, and able to take care of this countries healthcare needs at a fraction of the cost of physicians! Again, if doctors are unwilling to take care of our country's senior citizens, nurses are willing and will! Like it or not!
When will Dirty Harry and his group of union leaders who wrote Obamacare be writing the new laws that allow nurses to take the places of doctors? Surely you know that the states are in charge of that kind of thing but soon after this pile of progressive aimed crap takes place the states will be secondary since the national government will be well on its way to making all the rules.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:26 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Can you come up with some really good examples of how medical people get paid for Medicare treatment? I can from my own experience of nearly 13 years of Medicare care. It is not funny, at all, how the bureaucrats in the stae capital treat doctors and remember that to treat Medicare people they have to agree to take what they can get from those bureaucrats.
No problem! Nurses are willing to provide cost-effective medical care to Medicare patients if doctors are not willing to!
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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Ah.........excuse me. Do you remember why Medicare was enacted in the first place? After people retired, they could not get health insurance!

As far as your opinion of Medicare being eliminated before nurses take care of seniors, that is your feeble opinion only!

Medicare was enacted 50 years ago, times have changed. Also don't forget life expectancy was much lower and there were far more workers supporting each retiree than there are today.

Ah, it may be my opinion but it is much more realistic than your fantasy. Ask people if they would rather be treated by a physician or a nurse for a serious disease and I believe the vast majority would choose a physician.
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Hoboken
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No problem! Nurses are willing to provide cost-effective medical care to Medicare patients if doctors are not willing to!
Yes, I am sure there are Dentists who are willing to provide medical care, it doesn't make them qualified either!
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Old 10-28-2010, 09:30 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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When will Dirty Harry and his group of union leaders who wrote Obamacare be writing the new laws that allow nurses to take the places of doctors? Surely you know that the states are in charge of that kind of thing but soon after this pile of progressive aimed crap takes place the states will be secondary since the national government will be well on its way to making all the rules.
Roy. It is the doctors who are refusing to take care of Medicare patients. Nurses are willing to. The government cannot pay for what it can no longer afford.
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