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I was responding to your lack of knowledge.
I'm not going to look at your link.
You might want to try to have a waving relationship with the topic; spewing religious bias is not my cup of tea; but it seems to be your kool-aid.
Figures---turn a blind eye.
Besides, I thought the main reason we all have is to keep abortions few and far between. If you are not working on that then you are part of the problem.
You haven't answered me yet,----what are you doing to help women besides telling to go get an abortion? And what are you doing when theser women have children---what are you doing for the children?
You haven't answered me yet,----what are you doing to help women besides telling to go get an abortion? And what are you doing when theser women have children---what are you doing for the children?
Who are you talking too because I did post back on the last page.
I think the real question should be---pro-abortion people, where do you stand on human services?
Do you only support those programs that push abortion and why aren't you behind supporting poor women & children who need to be on welfare?
Yet again, you have refrained from answering the question. Don't worry, I know the reason why. It will make you look like a ginormous hypocrite.
Where do I stand on human services, well I have worked in maternal-child health my entire adult life. I am a midwife, I have worked in child health, both in hospitals, and in community health. I volunteer time and money to food banks. I donate my services to give out immunizations. I volunteer at head-start. I would like to see CPS receive way more money so they can increase parent-education programs, and better monitor children at risk. I would strongly support free health care for all, but especially all children.
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Originally Posted by janelle144
Why aren't you supporting women who decide to keep their babies, why do you push them to get an abortion? I thought it was pro-choice. What kind of choice is that?
I have taken care of thousands of children who are not well cared for, and way too many children who have been hurt, or worse yet murdered by their parents. I strongly believe that those children would have been better off being removed from their "mothers" when only a few cells, rather than living the horrific lives some have faced.
As I have already said my entire career revolved around women and their children. How much more supportive would you like a person to be than being a midwife? If it is not the right time for a woman to have a baby, thank goodness she has the choice not to do so.
There is only one thing more terrifying than a pro-abortion person and that is a midwife who prefers abortion over life. Sorry had to say it. We all know what Margaret Sanger pushed. I would rather have a Mother Theresa and her people help the poor instead.
Plus, you already know what I do to help so why do I need to tell you anything.
Yet again, you have refrained from answering the question. Don't worry, I know the reason why. It will make you look like a ginormous hypocrite.
Where do I stand on human services, well I have worked in maternal-child health my entire adult life. I am a midwife, I have worked in child health, both in hospitals, and in community health. I volunteer time and money to food banks. I donate my services to give out immunizations. I volunteer at head-start. I would like to see CPS receive way more money so they can increase parent-education programs, and better monitor children at risk. I would strongly support free health care for all, but especially all children.
I have taken care of thousands of children who are not well cared for, and way too many children who have been hurt, or worse yet murdered by their parents. I strongly believe that those children would have been better off being removed from their "mothers" when only a few cells, rather than living the horrific lives some have faced.
As I have already said my entire career revolved around women and their children. How much more supportive would you like a person to be than being a midwife? If it is not the right time for a woman to have a baby, thank goodness she has the choice not to do so.
I tried to rep you but could not.
You are sooo right. I think the real prolifers are people who support social services. Why are the so called "prolifers" against even a cent going to welfare? Forget that, they are against UHC. How is that "prolife"? If you don't have money, oh well. Just die. We don't care. We love you until you're born.
You are sooo right. I think the real prolifers are people who support social services. Why are the so called "prolifers" against even a cent going to welfare? Forget that, they are against UHC. How is that "prolife"? If you don't have money, oh well. Just die. We don't care. We love you until you're born.
I guess pro-choice/abortion people love to say that. If you do not know what people do to help, then don't say anything. Don't try to make it seem they do nothing when you do not know what they do. You are making that leap when it is untrue.
Abortion opponents don't seem to have a very consistent set of principles or interests. While they push for restrictions of induced abortion, they're rarely interested in research into spontaneous abortion that might reduce its prevalence. If induced abortion is murderous genocide, then spontaneous abortion, logically, is a widespread disease epidemic. They also ally themselves with electoral interests that seek heavyhanded restrictions on abortion rights, despite the fact that countries with few abortion restrictions and widespread sex/contraception education have lower abortion rates, as indicated by Benagiano and Pera's Decreasing the need for abortion: challenges and constraints:
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Voluntary abortion is the most controversial act in the entire field of medical practice, although today, it is a practice that, under different conditions, has been legalized in more than 100 countries, mostly in the developed world. The United Nations has agreed that in no case should abortion be promoted as a method of family planning and, therefore, it should be utilized only when contraception has failed. Overall, 61% of humanity lives in countries where abortion is legal and widely available; 14% in countries where termination is allowed to protect a woman’s health; physical, mental, or both; 21% in countries where it can be performed only to save the mother’s life and 4% in countries where abortion is not permitted at all. Restrictive legislation, per se, does not represent a valid deterrent to prevent abortion, while it may contribute to an increase in morbidity and mortality associated with pregnancy. In addition, because abortion is outlawed, nothing is done to actively reduce the reasons leading to it. Indeed, the countries with the lowest abortion rates are those where, on the one hand, pregnancy termination is legal and, on the other, sex education and contraceptive knowledge are widely spread.
While someone can be in favor of both widespread sex/contraception education and abortion restrictions, that's not a common political position, at least in the U.S., so it would be logical for diehard anti-abortionists to ally themselves with candidates that have electoral platforms of education rather than restrictive policies.
Besides, I thought the main reason we all have is to keep abortions few and far between. If you are not working on that then you are part of the problem.
I thought you don't want any woman to have an abortion.
Or have you changed your mind.
Why do I want to look at your religious drivel? Give me one reason.
I've read, heard and viewed religious drivel for a good portion of my life, and have no need or desire for more.
I've had my fill of dishonesty in the guise of religion.
Question No. 6: What human services do you support for unwanted kids or poor kids? WIC, medical care, Project Head-Start, education, housing, etc.
Do you support any of it?
That is the topic of this thread.
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Originally Posted by janelle144
You haven't answered me yet,----what are you doing to help women besides telling to go get an abortion? And what are you doing when theser women have children---what are you doing for the children?
You go first, it is the topic of the thread.
Oops, that's 7 times with no answer from you.
What's with the statement that I "tell women to go get an abortion? ..." - where has that been stated by anyone, other than you, that is. I'd like to see any reference in any thread at all by any pro-choice woman (or man) that remotely reflects your assertion. Link or lie?
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