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Old 11-02-2010, 01:38 PM
 
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Birthers are a dying breed but I see DraggingCanoe has risen after months of absence!

Guess I'll have to put him back on my ignore list!

 
Old 11-02-2010, 01:50 PM
 
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Nominate thread for "worst of C-D".
 
Old 11-02-2010, 01:53 PM
 
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Which was also the only reason for the 14th Amendment.

The 14th Amendment has been twisted and the original INTENT convoluted to mean anyone born on US soil is American which is simply not the case.

How far back do you need to go on a piece of land to prove that's where you belong?

Let's all go back to the time of Pangaea. That way as it stands today, NOBODY is where they "originally" belong.

Maybe we should only belong somewhere until you can prove that's where your earliest ancestor came from... And if you can't prove where your earliest ancestor came from then where would you belong then?
 
Old 11-02-2010, 02:02 PM
 
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Even by your idiotic, convoluted logic, Obama would be a natural-born citizen.......because he is descended from white Europeans (on his mom's side). So are most "Africans" in America, including yours truly.
Please read the definition again,...Kind..natural...to be produced from the same stock...meaning no mixture of the races. This is why the Founders used the word natural born.

An early 19th cent. dictionary it list the word Mongrel....as the child of parents from two different countries.

My goal is find the meaning of natural born citizen and what the founders were thinking, this is not about racism.

http://i870.photobucket.com/albums/ab264/Dragging_Canoe/vattelbooks25.png (broken link)
 
Old 11-02-2010, 02:06 PM
 
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I don't see the point of this thread or what the OP is trying to convey.
 
Old 11-02-2010, 02:12 PM
 
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Please read the definition again,...Kind..natural...to be produced from the same stock...meaning no mixture of the races. This is why the Founders used the word natural born.

An early 19th cent. dictionary it list the word Mongrel....as the child of parents from two different countries.

My goal is find the meaning of natural born citizen and what the founders were thinking, this is not about racism.
If a mongrel is the descendent of two different countries, then most everyone is the descendent of mongrels, aren't they. Anglo-Saxon, that's two different groups, that merged together. The Normans were French when they invaded England. The Norsemen were always mixing it up, those Swedes, those Norwegians, those Scots, those Danes, intermarriage was common. The Romans were instigators of massive mongrelization, weren't they. Italians, Germans, Celts, Greeks, Turks, all mingled together under the auspices of the Roman Empire. Even Egypt, a real hodgepodge of different ethnicities and races. In fact, any cosmopolitan center in the world, in the past or present, is a place where "mongrelization" is practiced and encouraged, isn't it?
 
Old 11-02-2010, 02:15 PM
 
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I don't see the point of this thread or what the OP is trying to convey.
Agreed

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