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Old 11-11-2010, 07:47 AM
 
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Conservatives, Out-Organizing Dems In Lame Duck Session, Suggest Pitchfork Protests

"A host of outside-government groups have stepped up their mobilization to ensure that the policy advancements that Democrats want to pursue while they still have favorable numbers in Congress simply get stalled due to timidity or in getting buried by the opposition".

There is only one major piece of legislation that will get voted on, tax cuts for the rich. The Republications have to pay back those who got them there. The UB extensions are not looking good.
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:01 AM
 
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so i guess a tier 5 is not even a dream anymore?????
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Old 11-11-2010, 08:38 AM
 
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so i guess a tier 5 is not even a dream anymore?????
There were no public comments about Tier V during the elections -- nor have there been any public comments since the elections -- by the three primary sponsors of the two bills pending in Congress that would add a Tier V to the EUC Tiers program:

• The Americans Want to Work Act (S.3706), introduced in the Senate in August by Senator Debbie Stabenow, which would provide 20 additional weeks of benefits in states with three-month average unemployment rates of at least 7.5%, and

• The Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010 (HR 6091), introduced in the House in August 2010 by Representatives Jim McDermott and Shelley Berkley, which would also provide 20 additional weeks of benefits -- but in states with three-month average unemployment rates of at least 10%.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:14 AM
 
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There were no public comments about Tier V during the elections -- nor have there been any public comments since the elections -- by the three primary sponsors of the two bills pending in Congress that would add a Tier V to the EUC Tiers program:

• The Americans Want to Work Act (S.3706), introduced in the Senate in August by Senator Debbie Stabenow, which would provide 20 additional weeks of benefits in states with three-month average unemployment rates of at least 7.5%, and

• The Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010 (HR 6091), introduced in the House in August 2010 by Representatives Jim McDermott and Shelley Berkley, which would also provide 20 additional weeks of benefits -- but in states with three-month average unemployment rates of at least 10%.
what states would qualify for either these type of extensions?
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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David Axelrod, the presidents advisor said today in a 90 minute press conference that President Obama will likely accept the extension of all he bush tax cuts for an unspecified period of time.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:19 AM
 
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David Axelrod, the presidents advisor said today in a 90 minute press conference that President Obama will likely accept the extension of all he bush tax cuts for an unspecified period of time.
so whats that mean for us little guys on Unemployment ?
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:22 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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what states would qualify for either these type of extensions?
Whether your state would qualify would depend on your state's three-month average unemployment rate at the time the legislation is passed...
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There were no public comments about Tier V during the elections -- nor have there been any public comments since the elections -- by the three primary sponsors of the two bills pending in Congress that would add a Tier V to the EUC Tiers program:

• The Americans Want to Work Act (S.3706), introduced in the Senate in August by Senator Debbie Stabenow, which would provide 20 additional weeks of benefits in states with three-month average unemployment rates of at least 7.5%, and

• The Emergency Unemployment Compensation Extension Act of 2010 (HR 6091), introduced in the House in August 2010 by Representatives Jim McDermott and Shelley Berkley, which would also provide 20 additional weeks of benefits -- but in states with three-month average unemployment rates of at least 10%.
For example, at this time New Jersey's three-month average unemployment rate would exceed the criteria for the Tier V set by Stabenow's S.3706; but New Jersey's three-month average unemployment rate would be too low to qualify for the Tier V criteria set by McDermott's HR 6091.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:28 AM
 
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Well then we need to put in Stabenow's s.3706 into plan because its more realistic. Again, who the hell would base something on 10% just to extend people in need?? I mean wake up. This is a goddamn mess and its pathetic how things are handled.
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Old 11-11-2010, 10:36 AM
 
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David Axelrod, the presidents advisor said today in a 90 minute press conference that President Obama will likely accept the extension of all he bush tax cuts for an unspecified period of time.
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so whats that mean for us little guys on Unemployment ?
Apparently not much, since The White House has now caved on giving the Republicans tax cuts across the board and is no longer using the tax cuts as a negotiating tool to pass any other legislation.

As Andrew Leonard of Salon.com today described the White House's capitulation:
"So far, the GOP has conceded nothing, while operating as the minority party in both the House and Senate. What possible reason do we have for thinking that Republicans will be in any mood to compromise, on anything, after such a clear, overwhelming victory?"
Obama's tax cut surrender - Taxes - Salon.com
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Old 11-11-2010, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Ocean County, NJ
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Apparently not much, since The White House has now caved on giving the Republicans tax cuts across the board and is no longer using the tax cuts as a negotiating tool to pass any other legislation.

As Andrew Leonard of Salon.com today described the White House's capitulation:
"So far, the GOP has conceded nothing, while operating as the minority party in both the House and Senate. What possible reason do we have for thinking that Republicans will be in any mood to compromise, on anything, after such a clear, overwhelming victory?"
Obama's tax cut surrender - Taxes - Salon.com
This is far from a done deal on anything. It is somewhat cryptic. Obama is still meeting with leaders of the senate and house next week. This just may be the groundwork for going forward and getting something done quickly as far as the taxcuts. I doubt they cave in on this for the sake of caving in on this. Especially when republicans have already said it would be hard for them to vote against the tax extensions for just the middle class.

While I don't think anything is going to get done before Nov 30th as far as the the extensions go. I do think something will get worked out even if its a quick extension before the end of the year but that's just the way I choose to think about this situation. The hard facts IMO (the unemployment rate, the number of people that will be effected etc), outweight any arguement against it.

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I just saw that David Axelrod and other White House officials say nothing is a done deal. I am confused lol. Axelrod said they would accept the tax cuts and he's saying that it's not a done deal. Washington Politics. Best reality TV show ever. I still think they won't comprimise and get nothing in return. That would be the worst possible bargaining agreement in years.
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