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Old 11-06-2010, 08:13 AM
 
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I can't stand Rachel BUT I watched the video-Keith broke the rules and I don't believe he will come back-why? His ratings have been in a free fall and I think MSNBC is looking for an excuse to cut ties with him just like NPR and Juan-they were looking for a reason. When it all comes down to it, it's business..MSNBC is looking to up the ratings.
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:26 AM
 
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Olbermann is a pretty sorry excuse for a news commentator; he's unprofessional, arrogant, pompous, a wind bag, childish, possibly even slightly unstable. And he sucks. But that's pretty much valued at MSNBC. But I'm not sure he did anything wrong. MSNBC makes no bones about being in the tank for the far left. They don't care if it hurts ratings or turns away viewers. So why is Olbermann donating to certain candidates suddenly an issue?
All the networks donate money or favors and have sponsors who donate money to political organizations.
He may have wanted a leave of absence for medical reasons or to get away and they used this as an excuse. His show has really been bad, for quite soem time, although I gotta say his replacement last night was BAD. It was like watching a high school kid audition do some standup and try to be taken seriously.
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Old 11-06-2010, 08:27 AM
 
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160,000 sign petition to bring Olbermann back now.


"As Danny Shea, Sam Stein, and others are well documenting, Keith Olbermann's suspension is getting a ton of attention. The Progressive Change Campaign Committee is organizing the public to do something about it. In just a few hours, ...160,000 MSNBC viewers signed our petition saying:
"Keith Olbermann made your network a success. If you want your viewers to keep tuning in to MSNBC, put Keith back on TV now!" Sign here - keep the "



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Old 11-06-2010, 08:31 AM
 
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William Kristol of FOX carried the water for Bush's war crimes in Iraq.

William Kristol also is chairman and co-founder of PNAC in 1997, the war conspiracy cabal that brags membership of Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Paul Wolfowitz, et al that conspired Iraq War prior to the Presidential election of November 2000:

Statement of Principles

Project for the New American Century
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:16 AM
 
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She explains why Olbermann was suspended and the differences between MSNBC and Fox. CNBC employees are not under the same contract. She also says that this is a temporary suspension.


Rachel Maddow Show
As an aside, about Hannity's contributions to and promotion of candidates, particularly his on-air endorsement of John Kasich of Ohio:

Kasich inspired News Corp.'s RGA gift - On Media - POLITICO.com

John Kasich for Governor of Ohio | We Did It (http://www.kasichforohio.com/site/c.hpIJKWOCJqG/b.6368287/k.F18F/We_Did_It.htm - broken link)

Great breakdown of Palin and Huckabee doing the same thing. Why don't Fox fans have a problem with this? Go Rachel.
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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160,000 sign petition to bring Olbermann back now.
That's about his nightly draw of viewers.

He's a waste of good air time.
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:21 AM
 
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"Let this incident lay to rest forever the facile, never-true-anyway, bullpucky, lazy conflation of Fox News and what the rest of us do for a living," she said. "I know everybody likes to say, 'Oh, that's cable news, it's all the same. Fox and MSNBC, mirror images of each other.' Let this lay that to rest forever. Hosts on Fox News raise money for Republican candidates. They endorse them explicitly, they use their Fox News profile to headline fundraisers. Heck, there are multiple people being paid by Fox News now to essentially run for office as Republican candidates....They can do that because there's no rule against that at Fox. They run as a political operation; we're not."
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:34 AM
 
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Murdoch: $1 Million Donations to GOP Made ‘In the Interest of the Country’ | ChattahBox News Blog

But hey, be fair and balanced, Fox isn't the only one!
Seems like a fairly new phenomenon that we now have a political movement led by a TV "news" outlet -- that usually happens elsewhere.

...Greenwald noted the similarities between Fox News' overt role in U.S. politics with places like Venezuela, where the opposition TV station led the failed 2002 coup attempt against Hugo Chavez, as well as Italy, where Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, a media magnate, uses his TV ownership to agitate. "Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch are really using that model to organize and galvanize this protest movement," wrote Greenwald.
Obama Vs. Rupert Murdoch: Fox News' Blatant Transition into GOP TV | Media and Culture | AlterNet
"There is no news in the truth and no truth in the news." - Russian saying as Russia had two well-known "newspapers", Pravda and Izvestia. Pravda means "truth," and Izvestia means "news."

This one sound familiar?

All news must be so popular and on such an intellectual level, that even the most stupid of those toward whom it is directed will understand it... Through clever and constant application of news, people can be made to see paradise as hell, and also the other way around, to consider the most wretched sort of life as paradise

[above quote altered]
essay to follow shortly
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:41 AM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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"Let this incident lay to rest forever the facile, never-true-anyway, bullpucky, lazy conflation of Fox News and what the rest of us do for a living," she said. "I know everybody likes to say, 'Oh, that's cable news, it's all the same. Fox and MSNBC, mirror images of each other.' Let this lay that to rest forever. Hosts on Fox News raise money for Republican candidates. They endorse them explicitly, they use their Fox News profile to headline fundraisers. Heck, there are multiple people being paid by Fox News now to essentially run for office as Republican candidates....They can do that because there's no rule against that at Fox. They run as a political operation; we're not."
Pot, kettle......

Joy Behar raised $150k + for her political opposition. Where does that fact belong?
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Old 11-06-2010, 09:44 AM
 
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Pot, kettle......

Joy Behar raised $150k + for her political opposition. Where does that fact belong?
I don't know, where?
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