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Old 11-07-2010, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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So here in the US are the chants of "tax the rich" to pay for our utopia of welfare entitlements and higher government debts.

Well take a look at Venezuela who did declare a war against the rich and the outcome. The rich pulled a "John Galt" and left and now the country is awash in new immigrants. Venezuela is lenient on immigration and has a wealth of social programs. These new immigrants are not professionals but many say life in Venezuela is better than where they came from.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/07/wo...html?ref=world

"Venezuela is in the throes of an immigration puzzle. While large numbers of the middle class head for the exits, hundreds of thousands of foreign merchants and laborers have put down stakes here in recent years, complicating the portrait of how a brain drain unfolds.

The opposing tides reflect the increasingly polarized nature of the country. The government of President Hugo Chávez, who recently declared an “economic war” against the “bourgeoisie,” has expropriated 207 private businesses this year — including banks, cattle ranches and housing developments, according to Conindustria, a Venezuelan industrial association — prompting many to seek safer havens elsewhere."
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:04 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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In Latin American the vast majority of rich people never deserved being rich in the first place, even less so than in the northern hemisphere. A lot of their wealth comes from inheritance and exploitation (land, plantations, farms, sweat shops, etc.), not seldom dating back to colonial times.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:04 AM
 
Location: Raleigh, NC
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Chile, late 60's/early 70's. See the horrors that social justice brings.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:07 AM
 
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Chile, late 60's/early 70's. See the horrors that social justice brings.
What a ridiculous statement. Social justice works in many places around the world. Every kind of justice is good, simply because the word justice as such has a positive meaning.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Neuling, that article goes on to say professionals left..doctors, lawyers, etc.
Not all are the "bad" rich. Some worked their way up the career ladder with education and hard work.
These folks have left as well..shopkeepers and manufacturing companies.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What a ridiculous statement. Social justice works in many places around the world. Every kind of justice is good, simply because the word justice as such has a positive meaning.
Well it seems to be working here in the US.
Lax immigration and expanding social programs and citizenship at birth.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Hoboken
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In Latin American the vast majority of rich people never deserved being rich in the first place, even less so than in the northern hemisphere. A lot of their wealth comes from inheritance and exploitation (land, plantations, farms, sweat shops, etc.), not seldom dating back to colonial times.
Thank goodness we have you to tell us who deserves to have wealth!
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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In Latin American the vast majority of rich people never deserved being rich in the first place, even less so than in the northern hemisphere. A lot of their wealth comes from inheritance and exploitation (land, plantations, farms, sweat shops, etc.), not seldom dating back to colonial times.
so you are saying we should condem the children for the sins of the father

are we to judge how/when/why they got their money

should we do that here in the states too.....

remember.....the kennedy's got their money from bootlegging
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:25 AM
 
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Venezuela can finance it with oil profits, once the oil profits dry up they are toast.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:28 AM
 
Location: West Coast of Europe
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so you are saying we should condem the children for the sins of the father

are we to judge how/when/why they got their money

should we do that here in the states too.....

remember.....the kennedy's got their money from bootlegging
Yes, of course. Just look at how wealth and land are distributed in countries such as Brazil. I don't understand how anyone can defend that...
And although I am more liberal than conservative, I don't like the Kennedy clan at all.
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