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I gess you coukld say that secular society is less likely to see abortion killing as not anyhting and call for older people to be allowed to die from what I have seen. its all in ones perspective really.
We are all related. We are all part of the Human Family. You don't need people just in your immediate family harmed to get get angry.
Reread what I posted. I cannot prescribe my personal feelings to the judicial system. On a personal level I can be barbaric. The law should NEVER be barbaric.
A Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable
The poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.
We can simply give them a lawyer and the same rights we give US citizens who are not terrorists.
It's easy to sit and ***** when you are not responsible for the safety and security of US citizens. Our elected officials cannot hide behind convenient ideals as liberals who will never be tested love to do.
We can simply give them a lawyer and the same rights we give US citizens who are not terrorists.
It's easy to sit and ***** when you are not responsible for the safety and security of US citizens. Our elected officials cannot hide behind convenient ideals as liberals who will never be tested love to do.
Once they are on U.S. soil those rights are guaranteed to them by our Constitution.
Again, intelligence gained through torture is not reliable in the least. Ask John McCain.
a pew research center for the people & the press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable
the poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.
Let's see: The article (and study) is about the use of torture on suspected terrorists. It is not about pedophiles - so you can scratch this argument.
It is also about people who are SUSPECTED of committing a crime and NOT about people who have been CONVICTED of committing a crime (in this case, terrorism - whatever that may mean). Hence, the argument that those who have been convicted get what they deserve also has no place in this discussion!
Finally, let's talk about the real meat here: Some people believe it is perfectly alright to use torture to extract information from SUSPECTS. I suppose those people have never heard of "Innocent until proven guilty..." nor have they heard of the Human Rights or the Constitution.
These people have also never thought that torturing a person will eventually result in any given person admitting to anything you want them to admit to - thereby potentially negating the reliance or truth of the information you hope to extract. I thought we had learned something in the last few centuries but it appears that this kind of knowledge hasn't made it to all corners of the earth, yet.
Naturally, we are talking about terrorists and to some, that seems to mean that anything goes. Fine, I have no sympathy for terrorists, either. However, a suspected terrorist is quite different from a convicted terrorist - and I find it troubling (although not surprising) that some people apparently lack the mental capacity to differentiate. I guess it's alright as long as it's not you or your loved ones who get innocently tortured...
Perhaps it's all okay: If the US tortures it's suspects, doesn't that basically make it alright for other nations to torture their suspects as well - including Americans? Bad news for those "spies" who accidentally crossed into Iran. Good luck Shane and Joshua...
A Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable
The poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.
A Pew Research Center for the People & the Press survey released last week found that those who attend weekly church services are more likely than those who rarely or never attend services to say the use of torture on suspected terrorists is justifiable
The poll also suggests that those who are religious are more likely to say the use of torture can be justified than those who are not religious.
and anyone posting on CD for awhile is not surprised.
Yup, Christians are torturers.
This of course is all about waterboarding.
And the people who do not go to church would rather see a mushroom cloud appear over San Francisco, murdering millions of innocent people, just so they can smugly hold their head high and say "I was opposed waterboarding, and I'm better then you". Nope, not ever, even if waterboarding would have caused the person who knows where and how the bomb was to be detonated to tell us.
Last edited by Wapasha; 11-07-2010 at 08:11 PM..
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