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Old 11-08-2010, 10:47 AM
 
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Yes or no? If yes how so? Express and define your opinion.
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Old 11-08-2010, 10:55 AM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Yes or no? If yes how so? Express and define your opinion.
Surely we have obligations to our country. I felt that way back in 1954 when I enlisted in the Army to avoid being drafted. Notice that I said I enlisted, not that I ran to Canada to avoid the draft. Back then we had a legal obligation caused by the law that called for all able bodied men over 19 to put in two years of military service. You know Universal Military Service. I wonder how many of the people who want universal medical care would have felt like that back in the day.

I don't suppose you want to hear anything so old as my example but back then there were very few men who ran from that obligation. We can't have a draft today because other countries don't want all our young men to emigrate to them.

I guess we were too close to the days of WW II for us to believe that escaping that law was sensible and legal.
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Old 11-08-2010, 11:01 AM
 
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[quote=roysoldboy;16573908I don't suppose you want to hear anything so old as my example.[/quote]


Sure I do, the thread is open for anyone to express their opinion and hopefully explain why they see it the way they do. I have my own topics to mention coming in the thread but I'll hold off for now.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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I don't think we have an obligation to our country per se, as in uber nationalism. I do believe we have an obligation to our children and those who come after us to preserve the freedoms that our country was founded on, protect the borders as necessary and act as caretakers of the land by keeping it in good shape for the following generations.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:27 PM
 
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Define which Country are you talking about...
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:35 PM
 
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Yes or no? If yes how so? Express and define your opinion.
Obey the law and pay your taxes. Everything else is strictly a matter of individual choice.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Fairfax, VA
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This is supposed to be a free country. I am not obigated to do anything but pay my share of taxes.
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Old 11-08-2010, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Jonquil City (aka Smyrna) Georgia- by Atlanta
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Americans don't but we should. Too many Americans ask what their country can do for them and ask not what they can do for their country. I served in the military so I did something for my country. My dad did too and he was wounded in Korea. But there are many ways to serve your country if you care to do so. Not all of them involve wearing a uniform.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:19 PM
 
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It's a matter of social status.
Those at the lower end are requested (sometimes demanded) to perform obligations (such as the military) to the country. Those at the upper end have only the obligation to enrich themselves and keep out of harm's way.
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Old 11-08-2010, 01:51 PM
 
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It's a matter of social status.
Those at the lower end are requested (sometimes demanded) to perform obligations (such as the military) to the country. Those at the upper end have only the obligation to enrich themselves and keep out of harm's way.

There might be people and cases of that, but I wouldn't agree with that entirely. There are those in the uppper ranks of money and society willing to give and put themself on the line.


But speaking of the "rich" or the "poor", does a person have only obligation to themself to advance themself even if it hurts their country in the process? Or are there or should there be limits? We often hear of "individual right" and " personal responsibilty".
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