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I want to know why all the pro-life organizations are not working with HHS/CPS to find loving homes for these kids? Why does one never see any advertizing on pro-life sites for foster kids? Why don't pro-life organizations go and picket outside of HHS/CPS offices demanding better funding and improved living conditions for foster kids? Why are there no pro-life supporters volunteering at the head-start programs? Where are the pro-life politicians demands for improved foster-care? Where are the pro-life politician's demands for increased budgets for HHS/CPS? What are they doing to help the already born children who really need help? I guess that's a rhetorical question.
"""""What are they doing to help the already born children who really need help?"""
Righty anti-choice people???
N O T H I N G !
Because once a kid is born it's "tough luck, sucker, grab your bootstraps and work your way up"
Helping children through government programs is .... EEEK!!....... BIG GOVERNMENT....EEEK!
Fight those commie, socialist 'entitlements"!!!!
That is not what I am suggesting, so stop beating that poor, dead horse.
I am asking what the pro-life answer is to all those kids languishing in foster care right now, let alone what will happen if Roe v Wade is overturned.
Now, is that plain enough for you?
I just want an answer to that particular question.
If you are capable of an articulate, thoughtful, insightful answer, please tell us.
If you dont answer, and sidestep the issue again, I will KNOW what your answer is.
For one, I question if people might stop getting pregnant if they think they would have to keep the kid.
Having said that, I'd love to see more stats on your "all those kids languishing" claim. I have personally known parents that have adopted kids and I know the hoops they had to jump through to get a baby. I question if there really would be a major issue.
Having said that, I'd be happy to take the money from Planned Parenthood and give it to the HHS/CPS to help pay for them.
But honestly..I can't see how you could actually consider cost as a determining factor in whether or not to kill a baby.
"""""What are they doing to help the already born children who really need help?"""
Righty anti-choice people???
N O T H I N G !
Because once a kid is born it's "tough luck, sucker, grab your bootstraps and work your way up"
Helping children through government programs is .... EEEK!!....... BIG GOVERNMENT....EEEK!
Fight those commie, socialist 'entitlements"!!!!
OK. First of all, not all pro-lifers are conservatives. I'm staunchly pro-life, but a progressive-leaning moderate. I support government social programs (commie socialist entitlements!) helping kids who don't have families or come from impoverished backgrounds. The baby's life outside of the womb is just as important as his life inside the womb. I typically support Republicans only because they are the lesser of the two evils (they are pro-life). I disagree with almost all Republican policies aside from abortion.
Secondly, I'm not "anti-choice." A woman can do whatever the heck she wants with her own body, but not with the baby growing inside of her (a different body, a different person).
Thirdly, why don't "pro-choice" people support suicide? Why can't people kill themselves? It's "my body, my choice, right?" Is it really the government's place to stop someone from ending their own life?
would you be ok with taking the money that the gov't currently gives to Planned Parenthood and giving it to HHS/CPS?
3% of the services provided by Planned Parenthood are medical and surgical abortions. Why take away the other 97% of services for that reason? Do you know what services they do provide? I wonder how much Wanda Franz earns? Maybe she can donate her salary?
I think in their perfect little world, there is no welfare, no abortion, no unwanted children, etc ad nauseum.....
Of course, those of us with our feet on the ground have the temerity to think differently.
Yes, repug anti-choice people are dreamers who long for a Utopia....
Their answer about abortion always start with "if".....If women kept their legs togetrher, IF women didn't have sex, IF women were more responsible, ..... lotsa pie-in-the-sky "if" all directed at their true target, women.
IF only human nature could change....IF only I'd win the lottery....
For one, I question if people might stop getting pregnant if they think they would have to keep the kid.
Having said that, I'd love to see more stats on your "all those kids languishing" claim. I have personally known parents that have adopted kids and I know the hoops they had to jump through to get a baby. I question if there really would be a major issue.
Having said that, I'd be happy to take the money from Planned Parenthood and give it to the HHS/CPS to help pay for them.
But honestly..I can't see how you could actually consider cost as a determining factor in whether or not to kill a baby.
The stats for the State of Florida were posted 2 pages or so back.
Guess you missed them?
I knew you wouldnt answer the question, and would just put in another lame attempt to get in a personal dig in at me, its what you ALWAYS seem to do.
I also knew you would have no real answer to the question.....because thats not your agenda, is it?
I know what your agenda is, thank goodness it wont ever happen.
OK. First of all, not all pro-lifers are conservatives. I'm staunchly pro-life, but a progressive-leaning moderate. I support government social programs (commie socialist entitlements!) helping kids who don't have families or come from impoverished backgrounds. The baby's life outside of the womb is just as important as his life inside the womb.
Secondly, I'm not "anti-choice." A woman can do whatever the heck she wants with her own body, but not with the baby growing inside of her (a different body, a different person).
Thirdly, why don't "pro-choice" people support suicide? Why can't people kill themselves? It's "my body, my choice, right?" Is it really the government's place to stop someone from ending their own life?
So then my post you quoted had nothing to do with you (????)
Yes, repug anti-choice people are dreamers who long for a Utopia....
Their answer about abortion always start with "if".....If women kept their legs togetrher, IF women didn't have sex, IF women were more responsible, ..... lotsa pie-in-the-sky "if" all directed at their true target, women.
IF only human nature could change....IF only I'd win the lottery....
Please cut out the "repug anti-choice" rhetoric. One, as I've said before and I'll say again, NOT ALL PRO-LIFERS ARE CONSERVATIVE! It's not about partisan politics!
Also, I am against abortion because I am a Christian. That's it. I don't try to justify my position with "secular" means, I oppose abortion because God says don't kill. That's my reason. I realize that women make irresponsible choices, but morally, I cannot justify legalized abortion. Women who choose to have unprotected sex and get pregnant should have to live with the consequences of their actions.
Having said that, I'd love to see more stats on your "all those kids languishing" claim. I have personally known parents that have adopted kids and I know the hoops they had to jump through to get a baby. I question if there really would be a major issue.
I posted the national stats a few pages back, but here you are:
AFCARS Report - Preliminary FY 2009 Estimates as of July 2010 (17) (http://www.acf.hhs.gov/programs/cb/stats_research/afcars/tar/report17.htm - broken link)
OK. First of all, not all pro-lifers are conservatives. I'm staunchly pro-life, but a progressive-leaning moderate. I support government social programs (commie socialist entitlements!) helping kids who don't have families or come from impoverished backgrounds. The baby's life outside of the womb is just as important as his life inside the womb. I typically support Republicans only because they are the lesser of the two evils (they are pro-life). I disagree with almost all Republican policies aside from abortion.
Well then you are in a quandry. My suggestion to you would be to spend a lot more time volunteering/working with these children so you can make sure their life outside the womb is so glorious.
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Originally Posted by kazoopilot
Secondly, I'm not "anti-choice." A woman can do whatever the heck she wants with her own body, but not with the baby growing inside of her (a different body, a different person).
Ridiculous statement and you know it.
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Originally Posted by kazoopilot
Thirdly, why don't "pro-choice" people support suicide? Why can't people kill themselves? It's "my body, my choice, right?" Is it really the government's place to stop someone from ending their own life?
Apples, oranges, bears. Abortion has nothing to do with suicide.
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