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Old 11-09-2010, 09:34 PM
 
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America is losing its clout. We've waged wars and won wars, but have we ever won peace? To win at peace calls for negotiation, and respect for others who are different.
Respect is a two way street, last I checked we were on good terms with Germany, Japan, and Italy.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:40 PM
 
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The truth hurts. But many Europeans are far from smug about America's current situation. Many are very worried.

Go to YouTube and listen to Geert Wilders. His PVV party in the Netherlands, along with many others gaining momentum in other European countries, would love to see America de-pussify and reassert itself.
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Old 11-09-2010, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Anchorage, Alaska
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America is losing its clout. We've waged wars and won wars, but have we ever won peace? To win at peace calls for negotiation, and respect for others who are different.

From the first landing of euro immigrants we've run roughshod over everyone and every living thing that was in our way. We are now paying for the sins of our fathers, and their fathers and their fathers. We've cleared old growth forests, damned rivers and driven species of plants and animals to extinction with our Western, so-called progression. And then we dressed in our Sunday best and skipped off to church to pray.

We can mend a soldier and send him back out to kill, but we can't get a kid with autism on insurance. We've annihilated entire peoples and cultures. We've dropped atomic bombs on cities, but we've never figured out what causes cancer.

We argue over prayer in the shcools but call babies 'anchors'.

We justify the destruction of everything in our path, but fail at winning peace.
Chock full of liberal guilt and self-hatred. Mmm mmm mmm.
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Old 11-09-2010, 10:08 PM
 
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A Superpower in Decline: Is the American Dream Over? - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News - International

The United States of 2010 is a country that has become paralyzed and inhibited by allowing itself to be distracted by things that are, in reality, not a threat: homosexuality, Mexicans, Democratic Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi, health care reform and Obama. Large segments of the country are not even talking about the issues that are serious and complex, like debt, unemployment and serious educational deficits.

The United States of 2010 is dysfunctional, but in new ways. The entire interplay of taxes and investments is out of joint because a 16,000-page tax code allows for far too many loopholes and because solidarity is no longer part of the way Americans think. The political system, plagued by lobbyism and stark hatred, is incapable of reaching consistent or even quick decisions.

The country is reacting strangely irrationally to the loss of its importance -- it is a reaction characterized primarily by rage. Significant portions of America simply want to return to a supposedly idyllic past. They devote almost no effort to reflection, and they condemn cleverness and intellect as elitist and un-American, as if people who hunt bears could seriously be expected to lead a world power. Demagogues stir up hatred and rage on television stations like Fox News...
Totally agree with this.
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Old 11-10-2010, 08:43 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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The United States of 2010 is a country that has become paralyzed and inhibited by allowing itself to be distracted by things that are, in reality, not a threat: homosexuality, Mexicans, Democratic Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi, health care reform and Obama. Large segments of the country are not even talking about the issues that are serious and complex, like debt, unemployment and serious educational deficits.

The United States of 2010 is dysfunctional, but in new ways. The entire interplay of taxes and investments is out of joint because a 16,000-page tax code allows for far too many loopholes and because solidarity is no longer part of the way Americans think. The political system, plagued by lobbyism and stark hatred, is incapable of reaching consistent or even quick decisions.

The country is reacting strangely irrationally to the loss of its importance -- it is a reaction characterized primarily by rage. Significant portions of America simply want to return to a supposedly idyllic past. They devote almost no effort to reflection, and they condemn cleverness and intellect as elitist and un-American, as if people who hunt bears could seriously be expected to lead a world power. Demagogues stir up hatred and rage on television stations like Fox News...
The author obviously has a big government view of life which is coloring his opinions. Some of his comments are accurate, but many are just his extreme opinions.

America is not at all distracted by "homosexuality, Mexicans, Democratic Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi..." Most Americans hardly ever think about those problems. Health care is an altogether different issue, and yes, we are distracted by Obamacare. And rightfully so. Most of us do not want to follow in the footsteps of France and Italy.

Yes, the tax code is way too complex and provides for way too many exceptions, deductions and exclusions. This is the culmination of many years of legislative actions. Many of which were intended to curry political favor or exercise political power over people's behavior. Clean up is desperately needed.

Most Americans never worry about "loss of importance". That's an European worry.

And nobody "condemns cleverness and intellect". Most Americans would love to hear of a "clever" solution to the illegal immigration problem and the health care problem. The author appears to think that if you don't support big government, you condemn cleverness. That's his problem, not America's.

Education in America is just as good as it has ever been. Millions of students graduate every year with some of the best eduction in the world.

And the final straw that exposes his political position is ragging on Fox News. If you can't quote any facts, always fall back on the "I hate Fox News" rant just like Obama does.

The bottom line is this author would like America to be like Europe and is frustrated that we probably will not follow that path. If that makes America less important in his eyes, so be it.
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