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Old 11-10-2010, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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You can always tell those who dont have to pay for their own insurance, they are the ones attacking those discussing the ramifications of the changes passed by Obama...

Employers dont have to supply health insurance, it was a plan thought up by unions though.. Another Democratic idea to "help", when all it did was hurt...

Many in america only need catastrophic insurance, but Democrats again have made that increasingly difficult to acquire..


The contribution allowed to HSAs is being cut and OTC medicines purchased will be heavily taxed as a provision of Obamacare.

Side Effects: Obamacare May Be Fatal for Your HSA | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:07 AM
 
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Then I assume you are eager for 2014 to get here. You will then have plans to choose from that are affordable, and depending on you income, premium assistance will be available.
Listen i have diabetes,gout,high blood pressure,carpal tunnel,bone and disk disease,spinal damage. My last surgery in 2003 the hospital bill alone was nearly $42,000.00 for 5 days not to mention the doctor bills,MRI'S,XRAYS and meds.These pre-conditions will not make my plan affordable and if you smoke or are over-weight they are going to pass the costs on to you.Eager? Hell No...REPEAL HEALTHCARE...
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:13 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The contribution allowed to HSAs is being cut and OTC medicines purchased will be heavily taxed as a provision of Obamacare.

Side Effects: Obamacare May Be Fatal for Your HSA | The Foundry: Conservative Policy News.
Not so fast Quick Draw, but Slow on the Uptake. A little truth may help, and it's free.

Health Care Reform: Few Changes for Health Savings Accounts
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Old 11-10-2010, 06:45 AM
 
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Not so fast Quick Draw, but Slow on the Uptake. A little truth may help, and it's free.

Health Care Reform: Few Changes for Health Savings Accounts
Well, the truth is just what momonkey said. Under the new rules, OTC drugs can no longer be purchased with HSA funds. Since the HSA contributions are tax-exempt (Fed, payroll and Soc Sec), that can easily add up to 40%.

So, if you know you have acid reflux, you previously could buy Prilosec OTC using your HSA, in effect tax free. Not now. The only way it would be covered would be with a prescription..and you can use your HSA for the co-pay. Of course, you're not going to get a prescription without a doctors' appt (even though you already KNOW what you have), so I guess you can use the HSA for the co-pay for the doctor's visit as well.

I simply don't understand how people can argue that Obamacare is NOT responsible for ANY portion of premium increases. Simply take a look at the current changes-it's common sense.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:41 AM
 
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Due to the healthcare legislation and it's cost it's putting on the insurance companies, they are passing the cost onto us. """"




Yup, too bad your Republican God , Wealthy Executives, can't just cut back to $1,500.00 an hour....that would help lower costs...




""They're further cutting cost by requiring working spouses to switch over to their employer's health insurance instead of the couple going onto the same policy. """


Hey, just like gay couples and heterosexual couples who have a committed 25 year relationship!!!!! HAHA!





"""Thank you Obama, Pelosi, and the rest of the Democratic Party.
Gee, sorry you were off the planet for the 8 years of the Bush administration when health care insurance costs were constantly going up.... while bushy did NOTHING about it.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:45 AM
 
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I do not know why employers should have to supply health insurance. People should be paying for it on their own much like car, homeowners, renters insurance, etc.
That's fine with me as long as Medicare and Medicaid is abolished and we're all playing on a level playing field. Also, the private insurance companies need to get rid of the pre-existing condition clause for everyone, from newborns to 100 year-olds. When that happens (which is never), then people can start to pay for their own health insurance in much the same way as their car, homeowners, and renter's insurance.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:46 AM
 
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Obamacare hasn't changed the trend though.
BushDoesn'tCare didn't do anything.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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BushDoesn'tCare didn't do anything.
Bush did care! He created a $Trillion hemorrhage of Medicare going directly to the needy Ins Cos. So, you can't say he didn't do anything.
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Old 11-10-2010, 07:54 AM
 
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Bush did care! He created a $Trillion hemorrhage of Medicare going directly to the needy Ins Cos. So, you can't say he didn't do anything.
Ok, I apologize....Bush DID always aid the Wealthy, his base "The Haves and the Have Mores"....the middle class or the "Don't Have Much"s not so much.....
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Old 11-10-2010, 03:27 PM
 
Location: it depends
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Not so fast Quick Draw, but Slow on the Uptake. A little truth may help, and it's free.

Health Care Reform: Few Changes for Health Savings Accounts
Read your own link! The high-deductible insurance plans, one of the keys to making HSA's work, are basically outlawed by Obamacare.
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