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Can we reroute the border fence to put CA on the other side of it? The last thing we need is more of them getting out into the rational states of the US. If they want to create a modern utopia let them live with the devastating aftermath of it.
I dunno. Jerry Brown is a cheapskate so I expect him to try and pare down government as much as he can. After that, I'd expect across the board tax increases.
Didnt they vote for No tax increases or new fees or new surcharges? I believe the citizens of Ca did.
Didnt they vote for No tax increases or new fees or new surcharges? I believe the citizens of Ca did.
I think this will be the coming scenario around the 2012 election time, Brown will beg the feds to bail them out, the president will agree and the republican congress will say no, and the dems will demonize the repubs as cruel hearted demons with hooves.
.......And "lifelongMOgal" your state has been taking money from California for as long as it existed. Don't act like you don't live in a welfare state.
I wouldn't want my state bailed out either. Your point? At least my state is not offering illegal aliens defacto amnesty! I personally have no control over how much money my state receives from the federal government. I vote for fiscally conservative candidates. Do you or did you vote for Gov. Moonbeam part deux?
I don't think any state should receive more than it puts in, period. In fact, I'd rather see the federal government take less from all the states so that they don't play middle man in the re-distribution of wealth among the states. Are you willing to say the same?
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Didnt they vote for No tax increases or new fees or new surcharges? I believe the citizens of Ca did.
Indeed they did. I suspect the people of California won't be weaned off the state teat very easily. Look forward to Paris style rioting in Califoria as soon as major entitlement cuts are made, if they are made.
California will be our Greece. That $25 billion is only 5% of what the state is in debt for. Their public sector unions have soaked the state for half a trillion dollars in unfunded pension and benefit liabilities. Which is ironic now that Brown will be the old, new governor, since he was the one who allowed the state employees to unionize.
They have no other option, the state needs to file for bankruptcy and expunge all the union contracts, and redo them in a more sustainable and realistic manner.
This is the fact of reality!
The Unions know it. There is nothing they can do now to stop it. Only the Federal government can bail them out, since Cali, doesn't print their own money. Will our new to come, "Conservative House", even consider it? Not if they want to keep their jobs come 2012.
The Unions know it. There is nothing they can do now to stop it. Only the Federal government can bail them out, since Cali, doesn't print their own money. Will our new to come, "Conservative House", even consider it? Not if they want to keep their jobs come 2012.
Actually, I think they may agree to it, but only if the state agrees to dump the state employee unions, and their budget busting, greedy, union contracts.
Indeed they did. I suspect the people of California won't be weaned off the state teat very easily. Look forward to Paris style rioting in Califoria as soon as major entitlement cuts are made, if they are made.
If we see Greece style riots in California will Obama declare martial law throughout the US to contain it? Would people in other states riot if the FED announces a bailout for California? Is this the other shoe yet to drop for him to destroy this Republic and institute a de facto Socialist dictatorship?
The Feds will step in eventually as there is no Housing Recovery. House flippers selling homes back and forth to each other will eventually get burned. The Democrats will ctry and continue to borrow as they're in the pockets of the Labor Unions and are bought and paid for.. The Government SHOULD NOT bail ot Calif!!!
California needs to deal with this its self.
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