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If he wanted to really help bring down the cost of healthcare he could have addressed tort reform and allowed people to purchase across state lines. Competition always
brings prices down, but he did the opposite of what could work and we're all feeling the pinch of increased health care costs and, in some cases, decreased coverage.
The so-called healthcare "reform" is by far the worst legislation ever passed. Obama doesn't give a darn about healthcare, it's all about power and the insertion of government control into our lives. He's only concerned in making government the only game in town.
A frequent complaint of Democrat voters is that President Obama has accomplished a lot, and brags little. I agree.
President Obama has two years at least (hopefully more). He has to find a marketing team that will pummel the press, facebooks, tweets, TV and radio with a hard sell on a soft subject- Universal Single Payer Healthcare ( MEDICARE for all). It is an EASY sell, because HR676 is a simple & logical plan, but President Obama has to have the will to gather a marketing team together that has the will to just SELL IT.
Please press this political agenda. It completely clarifies that the leftists (20% of the US population) has completely lost touch with the rest of the USA. Obama, as a devoted leftwing ideologue, will continue to respond to the will of the ultra-left, allienating him more and more with the rest of America. Obama, given his ideology, will be unable to abandon his base line political views, and will be unable to move to the center and become a viable leader.
Result- No more Obama after 2012. His political views and agenda are somewhat irrelevent at this time.
Doesn't the Obama single payer solution effectively nullify state regulation as well, putting everything in federal hands? Why do you want to eliminate the state controls and create federal controls instead?
If insurance companies are allowed to sell across state lines, state regulations would have to be scrapped in deference to federal regulations. It falls under the Intersate Commerce Law.
If he wanted to really help bring down the cost of healthcare he could have addressed tort reform and allowed people to purchase across state lines. Competition always
brings prices down, but he did the opposite of what could work and we're all feeling the pinch of increased health care costs and, in some cases, decreased coverage.
The so-called healthcare "reform" is by far the worst legislation ever passed. Obama doesn't give a darn about healthcare, it's all about power and the insertion of government control into our lives. He's only concerned in making government the only game in town.
Selling across state lines = Deregulation of the Health Insurance Industry
Tort Reform = Denying the consumer the right of redress for health industry malfeasance.
A frequent complaint of Democrat voters is that President Obama has accomplished a lot, and brags little. I agree.
President Obama has two years at least (hopefully more). He has to find a marketing team that will pummel the press, facebooks, tweets, TV and radio with a hard sell on a soft subject- Universal Single Payer Healthcare ( MEDICARE for all). It is an EASY sell, because HR676 is a simple & logical plan, but President Obama has to have the will to gather a marketing team together that has the will to just SELL IT.
single payer system could never be paid for
look at the numbers from our own medicaid (a single payer system),,,last year (fy10) it cost the taxpayers 320 billion dollars, just to cover 30 million people....do the math, to cover 310 million (our population) it would be over 3 trillion (possibly much more when you figure in the fact that seniors are a more costly demographic).......then look at what the IRS says is the number of 1040's filed...105 million (and nearly 50% of them get most if not all their money back)....now take that 3 trillion and divide by the 105 million taxpayers....you get over 25k (actually 28k) in taxes.......can the average taxpayer...the average worker afford that.....I dont think so
look at the numbers from our own medicaid (a single payer system),,,last year (fy10) it cost the taxpayers 320 billion dollars, just to cover 30 million people....do the math, to cover 310 million (our population) it would be over 3 trillion (possibly much more when you figure in the fact that seniors are a more costly demographic).......then look at what the IRS says is the number of 1040's filed...105 million (and nearly 50% of them get most if not all their money back)....now take that 3 trillion and divide by the 105 million taxpayers....you get over 25k (actually 28k) in taxes.......can the average taxpayer...the average worker afford that.....I dont think so
I know you've run these numbers before but I must say, they are flawed. First of all 49 million senior are covered under Medicare already so that factors into the 320 billion existing cost and these are the sickest part of the population requiring the most expensive medical care. No matter what system we are on, this number of seniors is expected to explode to 100 million in the near future. So unless you scrap medicare entirely, you are already insuring the most vulnerable segment of the population. People between 25 and 55 don't get chronic illness. For the most part they have accidents and the percentage is small.
I know you've run these numbers before but I must say, they are flawed. First of all 49 million senior are covered under Medicare already so that factors into the 320 billion existing cost and these are the sickest part of the population requiring the most expensive medical care. No matter what system we are on, this number of seniors is expected to explode to 100 million in the near future. So unless you scrap medicare entirely, you are already insuring the most vulnerable segment of the population. People between 25 and 55 don't get chronic illness. For the most part they have accidents and the percentage is small.
yes seniors are already PARTIALLY covered (medicare is not 100%, that's why seniors must BUY suplemental insurance.. and the 49 million seniors are covered by the 500 billion dollar (and rising) medicare budget
and yes they are the higher cost demographic...as I said in my numbers.."""(possibly much more when you figure in the fact that seniors are a more costly demographic)..""
the FACT is between medicaid (310 billion) and medicare (500 billion) we ALREADY spend 800 billion just to partially cover less than 80 million people, our population is well over 310 million and growing fast
fact is if you were to bring a singlepayer to the ENTIRE nation (remember when you say seniors(medicare) are already covered, they are not truely covered because it is only a PARTIAL system, not a single payer system like medicaid) the cost would be atleast 3 trillion, possible going as high as 5 trillion (especially with the seniors)....my numbers were using the LOWER COST medicaid numbers..the actual cost is expected to be HIGHER
not to mention higher energy costs, contribute to higher medical costs
single payer sound great on paper, until you try to figure how to pay for it
AZRiverfan's post a few pages earlier nailed it; overhauling our legal system will do tons of good in reducing the costs associated with our healthcare system, but Obama will never stand up to the trial lawyers that are the lifeblood of his party, or one of them anyway, Big Pharma among them.
He's indeed over his head, and his continued interference in the housing market by HAMP and other idiotic programs which he and his brain surgeons intitated will preclude any improvement in our economy over the next 24 months; combine that with the forthcoming eruption of inflation caused by his equally clueless comedy team of Bernanake & Geithner, and we'll be done with him in 24 months.
Skyrocketing taxes, as well as soaring prices for new cars as well as these little bitty Obamamobiles like the Chevy Volt (if you want to label it DOA, go right ahead), gasoline, electricity costs, healthcare costs, credit costs, and too many other items to mention will ensure his defeat in 2012, not to mention having 21 Democrats in the Senate who'll be facing re-election at that time, and will certainly not vote the party line with him lest they also find themselves unemployed.
The so-called healthcare "reform" is by far the worst legislation ever passed. Obama doesn't give a darn about healthcare, it's all about power and the insertion of government control into our lives. He's only concerned in making government the only game in town.
If that were truly the case, he would have pushed for a public option. Private insurance companies, hospitals, etc. are about to receive a windfall in profits they could only have dreamed of otherwise.
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