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I guess bullying them about their free speech right is ok though.
Dude, it's a school. You just don't get 'free speech' in school. Don't bully, don't intimidate, don't even imply intimidation or disruption of class. I don't care it it's a gay or a rebel flag, cross bearing redneck, but don't disrupt the class!
You people who are defending the bullies with the rebel flag are the reason the schools are in horrific shape. There is no reason to not BACK this teacher up!! The teacher either has to be in charge of their class or home school your snot nosed, fat little brats.
Dude, it's a school. You just don't get 'free speech' in school. Don't bully, don't intimidate, don't even imply intimidation or disruption of class. I don't care it it's a gay or a rebel flag, cross bearing redneck, but don't disrupt the class!
You people who are defending the bullies with the rebel flag are the reason the schools are in horrific shape. There is no reason to not BACK this teacher up!! The teacher either has to be in charge of their class or home school your snot nosed, fat little brats.
Fighting stereotypes with your own stereotypes. Interesting tactic.
Dude, it's a school. You just don't get 'free speech' in school. Don't bully, don't intimidate, don't even imply intimidation or disruption of class. I don't care it it's a gay or a rebel flag, cross bearing redneck, but don't disrupt the class!
You people who are defending the bullies with the rebel flag are the reason the schools are in horrific shape. There is no reason to not BACK this teacher up!! The teacher either has to be in charge of their class or home school your snot nosed, fat little brats.
Then ALL symbols should be banned from school, including the gay shirts. It's really that simple.
Here, how does this sound; Just changed a couple words for you.
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The teacher either has to be in charge of their class or home school your snot nosed, whiny little gays.
The goal is to maintain and perpetuate civility even with those who we are not accepting of. Civility is not lip service. We need more of it. And if the schools want to do something about it. Then they need to correct it with real programs not "purple t shirt day" BS.
McCance wrote the following message on his Facebook page: "Seriously they want me to wear purple because five *****s killed themselves. The only way im wearin it for them is if they all commit suicide. I cant believe the people of this world have gotten this stupid. We are honoring the fact that they sinned and killed thereselves because of their sin. REALLY PEOPLE."
That's fine, but it doesn't change what "rights" teachers have to enforce their opinions on their students and not be ready to argue with a student who doesn't agree with said teacher - especially when teacher can trump student and make him/her leave class or issue detention/suspension.
Teachers need to be Switzerland.
The job of a teacher is to teach the curriculum.
If a teacher wants to get more involved, it should focus around academics.
They aren't paid for their opinions.
They aren't paid to enforce their "belief" of the day/year/century and LEAST of all, to bring their own personal issues/beliefs into the classroom.
But they have a right to eliminate disruptions. Kid's lucky he wasn't whacked across the knuckles with a ruler.
There was a time when you didn't want your parents to know that you were disciplined in school. Because they would want to know what you did to merit it, and punish you as well.
At some point, parents stopped punishing their kids (maybe around the same time they were accused of child abuse for enforcing discipline?), and started fighting the schools on discipline. This is where the downward slide began.
Jay McDowell, a high school teacher in Michigan, was recently suspended (without pay) for dismissing a disruptive, anti-gay bigot from his class. The student was upset that he and other students were not allowed to display the confederate flag in class but that students were allowed to wear the color purple in support of the anti-gay bullying movement. During the argument, the disruptive student also spouted of about his anti-gay beliefs.
The reprimand informed McDowell that neither wearing the confederate flag nor spreading an anti-gay message in class constitutes a substantial disruption to the educational process and that therefore by suppressing both he had violated the student's rights.
McDowell responded to the reprimand first by pointing out that the school has a policy of not allowing confederate flags to be displayed in any car on school property, and then by saying "I believe any symbol or speech that can cause a student to sit in fear in the classroom whether or not there is an outward show of that fear is by its very nature a disruption to the educational process."
Here's one of his gay students defending him at a school board meeting as well as discussing how anti-gay bullying led him to attempt suicide at age 9:
So, do you agree with the teacher or the school board? Should students be allowed to wear what many people regard as hate symbols and be given a pulpit to express their bigoted beliefs (whether they be anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian, ant-black, anti-white, etc), or does such freedom create a disruptive atmosphere of fear and bullying inappropriate for a school?
as wrong as racism is, if you do not support a persons right to expression and speech, then you have no right to any free speech at all.
Jay McDowell, a high school teacher in Michigan, was recently suspended (without pay) for dismissing a disruptive, anti-gay bigot from his class. The student was upset that he and other students were not allowed to display the confederate flag in class but that students were allowed to wear the color purple in support of the anti-gay bullying movement. During the argument, the disruptive student also spouted of about his anti-gay beliefs.
The reprimand informed McDowell that neither wearing the confederate flag nor spreading an anti-gay message in class constitutes a substantial disruption to the educational process and that therefore by suppressing both he had violated the student's rights.
McDowell responded to the reprimand first by pointing out that the school has a policy of not allowing confederate flags to be displayed in any car on school property, and then by saying "I believe any symbol or speech that can cause a student to sit in fear in the classroom whether or not there is an outward show of that fear is by its very nature a disruption to the educational process."
Here's one of his gay students defending him at a school board meeting as well as discussing how anti-gay bullying led him to attempt suicide at age 9:
So, do you agree with the teacher or the school board? Should students be allowed to wear what many people regard as hate symbols and be given a pulpit to express their bigoted beliefs (whether they be anti-gay, anti-Muslim, anti-Christian, ant-black, anti-white, etc), or does such freedom create a disruptive atmosphere of fear and bullying inappropriate for a school?
Who decides what is a "hate symbol" or "disrubtive"?
The crime this student committed was disagreeing openly with the PC thought police. But so what? What is new here? Hans and Sophie Scholl violated the Univeristy of Munich speech code.
"In 1933 many Jewish scholars and professors were removed from their positions for having what was considered by the Reich to be 'degenerate' ideas, particularly Bolshevism."
The White Rose (http://www.shoaheducation.com/whiterose.html - broken link)
The left always opposes restrictions on free speech unless it happens to be something with which they disagree. Then it's hate speech.
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