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Old 11-16-2010, 03:14 PM
 
Location: OCEAN BREEZES AND VIEWS SAN CLEMENTE
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If the Muslim clerics want their women to be exempted from our screening then maybe they should buy private planes and employ them to fly these women. That way they would not have to utilize the public carriers but until or unless that happens, no exceptions for anyone. The next step of course will be when one of these terrorists stuffs some explosives up his a$$ and then everyone will have to undergo a full cavity search as well. Gosh, there are already prison personnel all over the country who already know how to conduct those searches.

Maybe its time to upgrade our railroads once again...

Exactly and i do agree with you. It is amazing to me the demands the Muslim Population brings upon us. I cannot believe the gull of these people, in their Country, would we have the same right to bit-- as they do, would we be able to make demands, without getting our HEADS CHOPPED OFF FIRST.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:21 PM
 
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First all terrorist are not Muslim, there are Basque separatist in Spain, FARC terrorist in Colombia, and still a small number of terrorist in Northern Ireland, just to name a few.

Now in relation to Muslim women being scanned let's keep in mind people pay to fly. If they don't like the security rules and procedures related to flying then they shouldn't fly. The security procedures in place are to protect EVERYBODY that flies, therefore everybody should be subject to the same type of security procedure. If Muslims think the security procedures in some way violate their religious practices they should work in conjunction with the airline industry and government to develop security procedures that still allow a woman to be searched yet address the security concerns of the airline industry and governments around the world.

On another note in Afghanistan female soldiers are used to search Afghan woman at checkpoints and other types of searches. I see no reason why the same thing can't be done to accommodate Muslim women who fly.
You know what Redrover is saying, the terrorist that are killing Americans right now are all muslim. Stop with the what about this guy and what about that guy.
Muslims should not be allowed to have a special anything. They are the cause of this in the first place!!!!
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Does anyone see the irony in Muslims, especially Muslim women insisting that they be allowed to opt out of both the full body scans and only permitting a pat down of their heads and necks? With virtually 100% of the terrorists being Muslim, in what universe does this seem a viable option for Muslim women who wear hijab? They could hide a virtual arsenal under those garments. But the worst of it is that the "victims" of any terrorism are being subjected to the over-the-top intrusiveness of the scans and pat downs but yet we are supposed to be "sensitive" to the very group who have made it necessary in the first place.

(I made no implication that all Muslims are terrorists, only that all terrorists seem to be Muslim - a clear distinction.)
What is the diff between a Muslim with conservative views on personal privacy and the same views held by any other American? None.
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Old 11-16-2010, 03:37 PM
 
Location: The D-M-V area
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Here's the special accommodation:

A Muslim should start an airline that is all Muslim.

Or airlines should have all Muslim flights.

Muslim only lines at the airport.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:36 PM
 
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There shouldn't be any argument against profiling now since our privacy has been violated quite a bit with this new procedure.
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Old 11-16-2010, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Great Falls, Montana
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Does anyone see the irony in Muslims, especially Muslim women insisting that they be allowed to opt out of both the full body scans and only permitting a pat down of their heads and necks? With virtually 100% of the terrorists being Muslim, in what universe does this seem a viable option for Muslim women who wear hijab? They could hide a virtual arsenal under those garments. But the worst of it is that the "victims" of any terrorism are being subjected to the over-the-top intrusiveness of the scans and pat downs but yet we are supposed to be "sensitive" to the very group who have made it necessary in the first place.

(I made no implication that all Muslims are terrorists, only that all terrorists seem to be Muslim - a clear distinction.)
Absolutely NO special accommodations should be made .. unless of course they would allow every other religion/religious entity the ability to opt out.

I smell a law suit .. where is the ACLU???

As an added note, just imagine how wildly unpopular Obama would be if one of these Muslim women decided to blow up a flight full of Americans over Chicago ..

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Old 11-16-2010, 05:02 PM
 
Location: Hawaii
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No special considerations and yes it is ironic; irony at it's best.
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Old 11-16-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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Actually, you can embed explosive material within clothing fiber, and release it with water... I know - let's make everyone board naked, and not let them use the toilet!
Strip, change into an issued disposable hospital style gown; stuff all the clothing into an issued bag, search, sniff (by dogs, not inspectors ) and x-ray it; Get your clothing bag returned to you when you get off the plane at the destination.

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Maybe its time to upgrade our railroads once again...
Railroads are sorely neglected with respect to security.
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:25 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If I am subject to the HS searches then everybody should be equally subject. Equality under the LAW is fundamental to our legal system.
Wait..where's your tolerance for other religions and their beliefs ?
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Old 11-16-2010, 07:31 PM
 
Location: Inland Levy County, FL
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Strip, change into an issued disposable hospital style gown; stuff all the clothing into an issued bag, search, sniff (by dogs, not inspectors ) and x-ray it; Get your clothing bag returned to you when you get off the plane at the destination.



Railroads are sorely neglected with respect to security.

Bahahahahaha! I can see it now....

You're definitely right about the second part. :/
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