El Al's Highly Successful Airport Security System...

[lamontnow]

Originally Posted by ambient

Yes, I'm sure that's what you and everyone else's grandmother thinks. But when the TSA actually exercises the right to intervene quite deeply where it thinks it sees something, suddenly everyone will be screaming bloody murder - both the right and the left-wingers. In Israel, they are not so squeamish about these sorts of things.

I think the reason that Israelis and non-Israelis travelling to Israel are more tolerant of security measures is that they experienced much more danger than Americans ever have. In the late 60's and 70's, Palestinian terrorists went on a spree of hijackings, murders of passengers, and airport attacks. One plane was blown up in midair.

That was a long time ago. The tight security measures put an end to all of that. There are very professional El Al plain clothes agents in the terminal watching everybody. If anyone looks or acts suspicious they are interrogated. In addition to the other security measures. Lines are not long.
No one thinks twice about flying El Al now, or in a long time, as far as safety is concerned.

I hope it never happens, but if terrorists become more successful here than they have been, people here will suddenly become much more tolerant of security measures.

[Pruzhany]

If anyone looks or acts suspicious they are interrogated.

Lets reword that to questioned or interviewed. now if we that statement were made in reference to the TSA, the word definitely fits. I've seen TSA agents surround someone and strongly interrorgate them and rifle through their luggage in front of hundreds of onlookers. But never have the Israelis in any airport El Al is in. Israelis do it quietly away from prying eyes. Even within the country the have privacy buildings/tents at all the borders. No one is searched outside unless one situation has a chance of occurring - they are suspected of having a bomb on them. In this case the people are moved away and the suspect is ordered to strip.

[Chava61]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

If I am not mistaken the TSA is indeed part of the federal government and not a private business.

It is possible to opt-out of using the TSA. Instead of the TSA, airports can private screeners:
ww.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html

[Chava61]

Originally Posted by Randomstudent

It doesn't matter. Administrative regulations created in the scope of federal law dictate TSA procedure and the TSA is solely responsible for airport security. As a result those regulations cannot violate the constitution. Even in cases where they have allowed private firms to operate those firms are still subject to TSA authority.

It is possible for airports to use private screeners instead of the TSA (after using the TSA for a 2 year period since the 2001 law creating the TSA:
ww.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html

[Randomstudent]

Originally Posted by Chava61

It is possible to opt-out of using the TSA. Instead of the TSA, airports can private screeners:
ww.washingtonexaminer.com/politics/Amid-airport-anger_-GOP-takes-aim-at-screening-1576602-108259869.html

Do those screeners have to follow federal regulation in their searches? I would think so. I do believe I said private firms could be used, but they are not exempt from administrative regulations and are still under TSA authority. It is not as though they are completely separate.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/49...1----000-.html
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/ht...0----000-.html