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Old 11-18-2010, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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Iran: Christian pastor accused of apostasy to die by hanging - Jihad Watch

I think one poster's comment sums it up best:
Islam is an international criminal conspiracy like the Mafia.
And like the Mafia, once you're in the mob, the only way out is death.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Lyons, France, Whidbey Island WA
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The Iranian leaders are f'd up beyond all recognition. I mean seriously what a bunch of neanderthal knuckle draggers. The guy even looks like monkeyboy.
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:38 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Iran: Christian pastor accused of apostasy to die by hanging - Jihad Watch

I think one poster's comment sums it up best:
Islam is an international criminal conspiracy like the Mafia.
And like the Mafia, once you're in the mob, the only way out is death.
Must be why we fight for them, eh?
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Old 11-18-2010, 10:44 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Iran: Christian pastor accused of apostasy to die by hanging - Jihad Watch

I think one poster's comment sums it up best:
Islam is an international criminal conspiracy like the Mafia.
And like the Mafia, once you're in the mob, the only way out is death.
So why, oh why are we wasting American blood and money, on regime changes and nation building on the region?

To spread Democracy? Really? Is democracy going to be more attractive to them than their own religion? Since when does Islam count votes?


I say LEAVE them the heck alone. They were doing fine killing each other off.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:29 AM
 
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Yah....we're such mean people....burning korans is so much worse.
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Old 11-18-2010, 11:30 AM
 
Location: Coastal New Jersey
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So why, oh why are we wasting American blood and money, on regime changes and nation building on the region?

To spread Democracy? Really? Is democracy going to be more attractive to them than their own religion? Since when does Islam count votes?


I say LEAVE them the heck alone. They were doing fine killing each other off.


Well, democracy once WAS attractive to Iran, wasn't it? In 1953? When they fairly elected their own government and then the US and the UK overthrew that democratic government and installed a brutal dictator who would be more favorable to them over the USSR regarding the sale of Iranian oil. I know 1953 might sound like a LONG time ago, but some of the people whose family members who were tortured and died under that dictator are still a little pissed at us because of it. Imagine that.

But, I agree we should just get out of there. The problem is still the same, however, they've got that oil and we want it, so we'll never leave.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Houston, Tx
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So why, oh why are we wasting American blood and money, on regime changes and nation building on the region?

To spread Democracy? Really? Is democracy going to be more attractive to them than their own religion? Since when does Islam count votes?


I say LEAVE them the heck alone. They were doing fine killing each other off.
They are also exporting their beliefs and killing people outside of dar-al-Islam.
A better solution would be to use the successful example of WW2 Japan. We went in and forced a constitution on them. We made them accept that the emporer was not divine. We should do the same to Islam. Seperate political Islam from spiritual belief Islam. Remove all the supremicist elements and force the leaders to admit that actions Mohammad took 1400 years ago are not perfect examples of conduct for people today.

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Yah....we're such mean people....burning korans is so much worse.
It wasn't even buring Qu'ans. It was only THREATENING to burn them. "No actual Qu'ans were harmed during the making of this PR stunt."
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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It was only THREATENING to burn them. "No actual Qu'ans were harmed during the making of this PR stunt."
...Which serves to illustrate a basic difference between Iran and the United States. Here, people threatened to burn Quran. There, they'll actually go ahead and hang that pastor.
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Old 11-18-2010, 12:21 PM
 
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Well, democracy once WAS attractive to Iran, wasn't it? In 1953? When they fairly elected their own government and then the US and the UK overthrew that democratic government and installed a brutal dictator who would be more favorable to them over the USSR regarding the sale of Iranian oil. I know 1953 might sound like a LONG time ago, but some of the people whose family members who were tortured and died under that dictator are still a little pissed at us because of it. Imagine that.

But, I agree we should just get out of there. The problem is still the same, however, they've got that oil and we want it, so we'll never leave.
Bush did a good job of 'empowering' the Iranian Fundamentalist Shiites, by killing the one obstacle to their Shiite satellite bloc in Iraq, namely Sadaam Hussein, who dis-trusted them, and really trusted Christians more than Muslims - his right hand man, Tariq Asiz may be executed soon, and the Christians in Iraq are being slaughtered left and right - thanks Bush! - the Fundamentalist Shiites love you!

Iraq president refuses to sign death order for ex-official
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Old 11-18-2010, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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They are also exporting their beliefs and killing people outside of dar-al-Islam.
A better solution would be to use the successful example of WW2 Japan. We went in and forced a constitution on them. We made them accept that the emporer was not divine. We should do the same to Islam. Seperate political Islam from spiritual belief Islam. Remove all the supremicist elements and force the leaders to admit that actions Mohammad took 1400 years ago are not perfect examples of conduct for people today.



It wasn't even buring Qu'ans. It was only THREATENING to burn them. "No actual Qu'ans were harmed during the making of this PR stunt."

OMG! Where did you get that one from? Bill O'Reilly? Comparing post war Japan to the Middle East? Please.

We've been at it for 7 years now and all we've accomplished is being broke.
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