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'scuse me. I mistakenly took you for a somewhat informed, rational poster, albeit with a different political slant than mine, who would engage in polite, intelligent discourse regarding a controversial topic.
You claimed earlier in the thread to be able to do your own research. So why do you keep asking questions that you can look up as easily as anyone else
But because I feel that this is important information to get out to try and quell all of the fear and ignorance
Cordoba House @ Park51 | Cordoba Movement (http://www.cordobamovement.org/2010/10/cordoba-house/ - broken link)
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Cordoba House will offer our neighbors in the Lower Manhattan community facilities and services similar to those traditionally provided by a YMCA or a Jewish Community Center. In addition to prayer spaces for use by all faiths, our community center will offer arts, culture, education and recreation programs and will serve as a center for multi-faith dialogue under the leadership of Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf.
Well, then how can they put in a Mosque? When was the last time you found a church or synagogue in an airport or railway station? I think the ACLU has even been busy making cities take down crosses that are too visible from public highways.
This is why certain private schools, etc. do not accept government funding because if you take even one dime of it, you must abide by government dictate. I really don't see how this differs. Our government, with a push from the ACLU, is on a rampage to remove all types of religious symbolism from all public property. How can government funding, even if its only 5%, be given to support a Religious Based Community Building with a Mosque inside it? Hospitals accepting government funding may no longer have chapels that contain any signs of Christianity (crosses, bibles, etc.) or anything for any specific faith - only a room. What is the difference?
I am not sure what the guidelines are for the things under which you can apply for LMDC grants, although I see that someone has posted that and I will look at it later. I do know that they will consider cultural enhancements to downtown, so maybe that's how Park51 is angling their application. For religious purposes, I don't think it should fly. LMDC did give a grant to a symphony to provide concerts at Trinity Church, but only the venue was a religious facility--I don't believe the concerts themselves were religious.
Daisy Khan, Imam Faisal's (sp?) wife, gives premarital counseling and addresses the possibility of polygamy in the Muslim marriage -- despite the practice being illegal in the US. Weird, no. Illegal, yes.
Nice attempt to water down her women's rights work into one irrelevant point. The Mormons would also like to have polygamy legalized. Polygamy is hardly a threat to human civilization.
For other posters who are truly interested in what I was referring to and care to learn:
In four years WISE has tackled an impressive range of issues affecting Muslim women internationally – including domestic and sexual violence, education, women's rights in marriage / divorce / inheritance. Their current focus is a campaign against extremist violence in Islam. In a striking innovation they are developing the first ever training program for women to become a Muslim jurist (or mufiyyah) – qualified to interpret Muslim law and pronounce decisions (or fatwas). This program values modern scholarship (e.g., modern human rights law, theories of globalization), ecumenical exchange with Jewish / Christian and other traditions (it is hosted at the protestant Union Theological Seminary), and, is deeply rooted in the long and diverse traditions of Islamic scholarship and spirituality. As Daisy Khan said, “If you look at the landscape of the Muslim world there are more than 500 million Muslim women around the world and there was not a single institution that spoke for us. So, if we are not at the table, who is going to speak for us?”
It will contain a mosque. Hence it is a church. Hence why the government should not give them a single cent.
It is a community center that has a mosque in it. My local hospital has a chapel in it, should they be barred from any government funding or grants or should the hospital be considered a "church" since it contains one within it?
It is a community center that has a mosque in it. My local hospital has a chapel in it, should they be barred from any government funding or grants or should the hospital be considered a "church" since it contains one within it?
A chapel is a nondenominational place. Anyone can believe in whatever they want to believe while in it. The chapel does not push any one set of beliefs on anyone.
Amazingly enough, there are a lot of morons in NYC who want the mosque.
Fine with me. I don't live there. Why should i care? I want someone in my city to build a new bowling alley. And i don't want the people of NYC to have any say so about it.
chapel [ˈtʃæpəl]
n
1. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) a place of Christian worship in a larger building, esp a place set apart, with a separate altar, in a church or cathedral
2. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) a similar place of worship in or attached to a large house or institution, such as a college, hospital or prison
3. (Christianity / Ecclesiastical Terms) a church subordinate to a parish church
4. (Christianity / Protestantism) (in Britain)
a. a Nonconformist place of worship
b. Nonconformist religious practices or doctrine
c. (as adjective) he is chapel, but his wife is church Compare church [8]
5. (Christianity / Roman Catholic Church) (in Scotland) a Roman Catholic church
6. (Communication Arts / Journalism & Publishing) the members of a trade union in a particular newspaper office, printing house, etc.
7. (Communication Arts / Printing, Lithography & Bookbinding) a printing office
[from Old French chapele, from Late Latin cappella, diminutive of cappa cloak (see cap); originally denoting the sanctuary where the cloak of St Martin of Tours was kept as a relic]
A place of Christian worship, even if non-denominational. Hence why it isn't called a temple or a mosque.
I clicked on your link (apparently the only one who did) and it didn't work.
I went to the LMDC site, though, and found this in the general statement about the application for funds from the 2005 program. I don't imagine it can have changed much.
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