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Just did some research. It is described as Park 51, which will be a Community Center AND Mosque.
I still wonder when is the last time the Government funded a Community Center that just happened to have a Catholic Church in it or Jewish Synagogue as part of it?
Also, does anyone know if the Community Services to be offered and described as "domestic abuse" social service programs would be based on U.S. law/legal advice or Sharia Law/legal advice? Also, another program to be offered was Arabic and other foreign language classes and immigration services. May be slightly off topic, but why wouldn't English Classes be taught? I mean if you are going to offer immigration services, wouldn't you be interested in teaching the language of the land people are immigrating to. That would certainly make sense if one is truly interested in "community building."
KHAN: However, we have said that we would not only have a 9/11 memorial within the space, but that we would certainly consider having (contemplation ?) space for all religions.
If we have separation of Church and state, then we have to have it from Mosque and state as well.
You'd think, wouldn't you? However, I believe that is where they came up with calling it a community center.
However, in reading Khan's transcript, I found a discrepancy, when she is being questioned in regards to an 'open to public' (my failure to find better words) culture center. Like it just may not be quite what they had in mind to begin with. (like a ymca?)
Also, Rauf mentions, 'stake holders'. Who are the stake holders and what part do they play as for as the financing of this building or any part of this building for that matter?
Is this like Baptist and they call them Deacons of the Church?
imho, this is not a religious culture bridge building center. This is a political scam. Nothing more, nothing less. This is not what spirituality is all about. People, on the other hand, oh yeah.
When is a Mosque, not a Mosque and when is it not a symbol used to display a victory? When it's on U.S. soil?
My JCC gets federal and state funding. It's a community center that anyone can join, but 99% are Jews. Jewish services are held there as are Jewish education classes.
The YMCA in my hometown had Christian activities. So do Boy Scouts (and they certainly get federal funding).
I agree that these should have their federal funding cut, but you need to cut them ALL before you can start picking and choosing. Stop running around scared. I, for one, am excited about the opportunity to go to Middle Eastern cooking classes at the MCC.
[quote=actonbell;16760438]I keep asking those same questions. What I have come up with is people are fickle.
One day, people are going to say, you know we ought not to have done that. And some one will reply, ya think?![/quote]
Exactly, we need to really open our eyes and see what is going on- It is scary. We have way too many people being "politically correct" and jumping on the bandwagon they do not seem to understand the muslim religion is based on Converting the world to their religion whoever does not believe in Allah is worthless. They want this MOSQUE up for Victory- That is what I believe.
My JCC gets federal and state funding. It's a community center that anyone can join, but 99% are Jews. Jewish services are held there as are Jewish education classes.
The YMCA in my hometown had Christian activities. So do Boy Scouts (and they certainly get federal funding).
I agree that these should have their federal funding cut, but you need to cut them ALL before you can start picking and choosing. Stop running around scared. I, for one, am excited about the opportunity to go to Middle Eastern cooking classes at the MCC.
I keep asking those same questions. What I have come up with is people are fickle.
One day, people are going to say, you know we ought not to have done that. And some one will reply, ya think?![/quote]
Exactly, we need to really open our eyes and see what is going on- It is scary. We have way too many people being "politically correct" and jumping on the bandwagon they do not seem to understand the muslim religion is based on Converting the world to their religion whoever does not believe in Allah is worthless. They want this MOSQUE up for Victory- That is what I believe.
Belief is a funny thing. It's not backed up by fact, as is clear in your case.
There is nothing politically correct about saying that the vast majority of Muslims in the US are peaceful people.
Belief is a funny thing. It's not backed up by fact, as is clear in your case.
There is nothing politically correct about saying that the vast majority of Muslims in the US are peaceful people.
You have your opinion as I have mine there sparky- I got my facts do you know yours? Enjoy your cooking classes (yea right,) call me when in NYC and let me know how much you fit it and will be acceppted walking into a Muslim center. I will need a good laugh
Yeah because, as we all know, Muslims are known for their "cultural centers" sprinkled throughout the world.
It's a mosque. The primary reason for it's construction was to provide a house of worship for Muslims in Lower Manhattan. Anything beyond that is a simple attempt at appeasement.
Why would you say that? There are already several Muslim prayer centers/mosques in lower Manhattan, as you must be aware.
The idea behind this facility is and always has been modeled after the JCC concept.
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This is not what spirituality is all about. People, on the other hand, oh yeah.
If they get this $$$, America deserves to be laughed at. Community Center. WHATEVER! That **** cracks me up. 
(yea right) 
