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Old 11-27-2010, 07:46 AM
 
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The homeless problem started up in the 80s, after Reagan became President. And it's been going on now, for over 30 years. Homelessness has continued to increase, since the great recession began over two years ago.

In a wealthy country like America, the homeless problem is a national disgrace. Shouldn't we use our considerable economic resources, to eliminate homelessness once and for all? And what do you think would be the best way, to go about doing so?
America's becoming less wealthy by the second thanks to opinions like these the only great thing about this country going flat broke is that it might wake people up to what the opinions above will do to your country. Btw eliminate homelessness you mean like they tried to back in the 60's under lbj. Well by your own statements we can tell how well that worked out.
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Old 11-27-2010, 07:48 AM
 
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Homelessness is the not problem.
What do you think IS the problem that causes homelessness ?
THAT is what you should work to fix.
Then their should be an expansion of affordable housing, for low-income people. For those who are out in the street due to addictions or mental illness, more effective treatment options, should be available. People that are victims of disasters such as floods, storms, fires, etc., should have access to immediate housing, provided by local agencies. Eviction and forclosure prevention programs, need to be available to those who are in danger of losing their homes, or apartments.

The most important thing that we need right now, with regards to joblessness, is for the government to implement a jobs program. Private employers can't be forced to hire people. And they have had tax breaks, to encourage them to do more hiring. Which, by in large, they haven't done. So a government jobs program could put people back to work, that have exhausted their unemployment benefits, and still haven't found private sector jobs.

Speaking of jobs, we need a higher minimum wage. Eight dollars an hour, is just not enough to support yourself, or especially a family on. Most especially, if that's your only source of income. I think that it should be raised to around 14.00 an hour. This could also help employers who typically pay the minimum wage, retain more workers. That's because if workers are paid enough to live on, then they won't be so quick to leave a job, to look for a better-paying one.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:08 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Then their should be an expansion of affordable housing, for low-income people. For those who are out in the street due to addictions or mental illness, more effective treatment options, should be available. People that are victims of disasters such as floods, storms, fires, etc., should have access to immediate housing, provided by local agencies. Eviction and forclosure prevention programs, need to be available to those who are in danger of losing their homes, or apartments.

The most important thing that we need right now, with regards to joblessness, is for the government to implement a jobs program. Private employers can't be forced to hire people. And they have had tax breaks, to encourage them to do more hiring. Which, by in large, they haven't done. So a government jobs program could put people back to work, that have exhausted their unemployment benefits, and still haven't found private sector jobs.

Speaking of jobs, we need a higher minimum wage. Eight dollars an hour, is just not enough to support yourself, or especially a family on. Most especially, if that's your only source of income. I think that it should be raised to around 14.00 an hour. This could also help employers who typically pay the minimum wage, retain more workers. That's because if workers are paid enough to live on, then they won't be so quick to leave a job, to look for a better-paying one.
The government can't create jobs. This isn't the simplistic "money falls from the sky with no consequences" that you have in your head.

The government needs money to create jobs - and where does it get it's money? Taxes. If the gov. raises individual taxes to create jobs, people have less disposable income - which means they spend less. And by spending less it effects the economy ... which means more people will be out of work. Oh I know! They can work for the government! See the vicious cycle?

If the gov. raises taxes on corporations - do you think business sucks it up and eats the cost? Nope. It gets passed on to consumers - who in turn have less money to spend. Got it?

And raising minimum wage? Seriously? Do you think about things before you post? All raising minimum wage would do is raise the rest of the goods in line with minimum wage. Even though you'd have more money, it would go just as far.

The government isn't the answer to every problem. In fact, in most instances it IS the problem.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:09 AM
 
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Then their should be an expansion of affordable housing, for low-income people. For those who are out in the street due to addictions or mental illness, more effective treatment options, should be available. People that are victims of disasters such as floods, storms, fires, etc., should have access to immediate housing, provided by local agencies. Eviction and forclosure prevention programs, need to be available to those who are in danger of losing their homes, or apartments.

The most important thing that we need right now, with regards to joblessness, is for the government to implement a jobs program. Private employers can't be forced to hire people. And they have had tax breaks, to encourage them to do more hiring. Which, by in large, they haven't done. So a government jobs program could put people back to work, that have exhausted their unemployment benefits, and still haven't found private sector jobs.

Speaking of jobs, we need a higher minimum wage. Eight dollars an hour, is just not enough to support yourself, or especially a family on. Most especially, if that's your only source of income. I think that it should be raised to around 14.00 an hour. This could also help employers who typically pay the minimum wage, retain more workers. That's because if workers are paid enough to live on, then they won't be so quick to leave a job, to look for a better-paying one.
They shouldn't just have a house they should have palaces. And why stop at $14 lets raise to $50. Btw tell that to all the poor people who do support theirselves and families on $8 an hr and manage to keep a home.
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:24 AM
 
Location: On the Chesapeake
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Then their should be an expansion of affordable housing, for low-income people. 1) For those who are out in the street due to addictions or mental illness, more effective treatment options, should be available. 2) People that are victims of disasters such as floods, storms, fires, etc., should have access to immediate housing, provided by local agencies. 3) Eviction and forclosure prevention programs, need to be available to those who are in danger of losing their homes, or apartments.

The most important thing that we need right now, with regards to joblessness, is for the 4) government to implement a jobs program. Private employers can't be forced to hire people. And they have had tax breaks, to encourage them to do more hiring. Which, by in large, they haven't done. So a government jobs program could put people back to work, that have exhausted their unemployment benefits, and still haven't found private sector jobs.

Speaking of jobs, we need a higher minimum wage. 5) Eight dollars an hour, is just not enough to support yourself, or especially a family on. Most especially, if that's your only source of income. I think that it should be raised to around 14.00 an hour. This could also help employers who typically pay the minimum wage, retain more workers. That's because if workers are paid enough to live on, then they won't be so quick to leave a job, to look for a better-paying one.

1) those types of programs were ended in the 1970s and 80s in a misguided liberal attempt to mainstream people into society. Look at the various laws for education that cost school systems millions for a small number of individuals. Begin your research with IDEA.
2) already done. Where have you been?
3) Why? In this area most who are being foreclosed upon used their homes for cash machines and overextended themselves. Few have lost their homes because of job loss. Downstream, will banks loan anyone any money if the borrower can repudiate the contract?
4) doing what jobs exactly?
5) agreed that $8/hour is inadequate to raise a family on, most minimum wage workers aren't doing that. The side effect of nearly doubling it will be two-fold, higher consumer prices (which the newly raised minimum wage workers won't be able to afford) and businesses not hiring or even laying current workers off. Many businesses with contract mandated raises lay off workers when the new raises go into effect now. Just for my own information, is the 10th grader giving you your Big Mac worth $14/hour?
Please take time to read the following link:
Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2009
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:32 AM
 
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The government can't create jobs. This isn't the simplistic "money falls from the sky with no consequences" that you have in your head.

The government needs money to create jobs - and where does it get it's money? Taxes. If the gov. raises individual taxes to create jobs, people have less disposable income - which means they spend less. And by spending less it effects the economy ... which means more people will be out of work. Oh I know! They can work for the government! See the vicious cycle?

If the gov. raises taxes on corporations - do you think business sucks it up and eats the cost? Nope. It gets passed on to consumers - who in turn have less money to spend. Got it?

And raising minimum wage? Seriously? Do you think about things before you post? All raising minimum wage would do is raise the rest of the goods in line with minimum wage. Even though you'd have more money, it would go just as far.

The government isn't the answer to every problem. In fact, in most instances it IS the problem.
Private employers aren't solving the problems of this economy. So if taxes have to raised to create government jobs, then so be it. The tax burden, should be placed mainly on the wealthy, rather than the middle class and the poor. Jobs are not being created by private employers now, so a government jobs program, looks like our only option. And if the government can't creat jobs, then how come they did it during the great depression. This country needs a New Deal program, NOW!

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Old 11-27-2010, 08:37 AM
 
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The homeless problem started up in the 80s, after Reagan became President. And it's been going on now, for over 30 years. Homelessness has continued to increase, since the great recession began over two years ago.

In a wealthy country like America, the homeless problem is a national disgrace. Shouldn't we use our considerable economic resources, to eliminate homelessness once and for all? And what do you think would be the best way, to go about doing so?
We should create extravagant mortgages. We can call them sub-prime mortgages. They can be made up of things like no interest loans, adjustable rate mortgages (3, 5 and 7 year plans), reverse mortgages, etc. We can subsidize them with a national entity that we'll call Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. They'll provide "price controls" for loans so we can get everyone who can't provide any documentation of financial literacy, or any ability to save money or build assets, a home. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac can then, to bolster their portfolios, sell, to the rest of the world, mortgage-backed securities. Those government sponsored entities can be in cahoots with private banks too, and to insure them in case something happens, those private banks can insure themselves. We can have an Oprah moment! You get a home! She gets a home! He gets a home! Everyone gets a home!

Sound good?

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Old 11-27-2010, 08:41 AM
 
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1) those types of programs were ended in the 1970s and 80s in a misguided liberal attempt to mainstream people into society. Look at the various laws for education that cost school systems millions for a small number of individuals. Begin your research with IDEA.
2) already done. Where have you been?
3) Why? In this area most who are being foreclosed upon used their homes for cash machines and overextended themselves. Few have lost their homes because of job loss. Downstream, will banks loan anyone any money if the borrower can repudiate the contract?
4) doing what jobs exactly?
5) agreed that $8/hour is inadequate to raise a family on, most minimum wage workers aren't doing that. The side effect of nearly doubling it will be two-fold, higher consumer prices (which the newly raised minimum wage workers won't be able to afford) and businesses not hiring or even laying current workers off. Many businesses with contract mandated raises lay off workers when the new raises go into effect now. Just for my own information, is the 10th grader giving you your Big Mac worth $14/hour?
Please take time to read the following link:
Characteristics of Minimum Wage Workers: 2009
The 10th grader serving Big Macs, doesn't concern me. What concerns me, are adults who have to support themselves and their families, on the current minimum wage. They're just one paycheck, away from the streets.

With the at-will employment laws, employers have been able to lay off whomever they want, whenever they want, for any flimsy excuse that they want. Because of this, you can't tell me that private businesses, aren't responsible for massive joblessness.

What's the government supposed to do? Sit on its hands, and let people starve in the streets, who lose their jobs, and have run out of unemployment benefits? If you don't think that government is the answer, then might you explain what is??
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Hoosierville
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Jobs are not being created by private employers now, so a government jobs program, looks like our only option.
LOL! It's so simplistic for you, isn't it? Passing the buck, I mean.

Why don't you create a business and hire people? What's stopping you? Think of the impact you could have, IMMEDIATELY, on and in your own community. If you feel so strongly about this - take the bull by the horns and do it ... don't expect others to do your bidding, do it yourself.

(At least you stopped smacking yourself in the head - thank goodness for small favors I guess.)
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Old 11-27-2010, 08:48 AM
 
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The 10th grader serving Big Macs, doesn't concern me. What concerns me, are adults who have to support themselves and their families, on the current minimum wage. They're just one paycheck, away from the streets.

With the at-will employment laws, employers have been able to lay off whomever they want, whenever they want, for any flimsy excuse that they want. Because of this, you can't tell me that private businesses, aren't responsible for massive joblessness.

What's the government supposed to do? Sit on its hands, and let people starve in the streets, who lose their jobs, and have run out of unemployment benefits? If you don't think that government is the answer, then might you explain what is??
Would it make you feel any better if you knew we were just one week away from the stone-age?
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